Living-in vs Living-out

fantASTic · #1 07-14-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Well whether they have the "dormers" or individual rooms, you end up having to work it out with 50 other girls, not just the one.

And as for the alcohol, the members of the NPC voted on it, there isn't really an outside entity insisting, there's the group of them agreeing. You can argue whether or not that's patronizing to women or not, but it was women who voted that rule into place either way. There are also a decent number of campuses that are dry even for 21 year olds. So .. i don't know where i fall on that except that it's perfectly possible for members to drink elsewhere.

Sure...people who are graduated and probably middle-aged voted on it. Not collegiates - who actually LIVE in the house.

Drolefille · #2 07-14-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic

Sure...people who are graduated and probably middle-aged voted on it. Not collegiates - who actually LIVE in the house.

Yeah but that's pretty standard for college in general.

I'm sure i'm biased as a non-drinker but i don't see why it matters in the end. And even on a 'wet' campus, a 21 year old living with a 20 year old would have to keep alcohol separate. There's not usually minifridges in sorority houses (In my experience) nor any way to be sure it's kept from underage women. And we KNOW it wouldn't be.

33girl · #3 07-14-2010, 08:49 PM

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As for the insurance...I'm sorry, but I just don't buy that. If that was the case, NPC wouldn't insist that we all had the same rule. Chapters would be able to decide to pay the extra insurance. That's not how it is, and that doesn't add up for me.

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

And as for the alcohol, the members of the NPC voted on it, there isn't really an outside entity insisting, there's the group of them agreeing.

The alcohol free housing policy is not an NPC policy - each group has its own policy (which all happen to say pretty much the same thing). Ditto the housing thing. Gotta love peer pressure and forcing by the insurance companies. The groups obviously don't agree on this issue - or they would have all had the same policy when it came to mixers.

Drolefille · #4 07-14-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

The alcohol free housing policy is not an NPC policy - each group has its own policy (which all happen to say pretty much the same thing). Ditto the housing thing. Gotta love peer pressure and forcing by the insurance companies. The groups obviously don't agree on this issue - or they would have all had the same policy when it came to mixers.

Actually it's in the NPC Standards booklet on the website.

http://www.npcwomen.org/resources/pd...ds_booklet.pdf

33girl · #5 07-14-2010, 08:59 PM

It says "each member group" makes a policy, not that NPC has a blanket policy it enforces. In other words it's up to the member groups to determine what a "facility" or "housed chapter" is. You could actually take that to mean that a sorority who has a dorm suite (if the campus permits it) could drink their asses off in the dorm.

Drolefille · #6 07-14-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

It says "each member group" makes a policy, not that NPC has a blanket policy it enforces. In other words it's up to the member groups to determine what a "facility" or "housed chapter" is. You could actually take that to mean that a sorority who has a dorm suite (if the campus permits it) could drink their asses off in the dorm.

This is actually allowed AFAIK. We didn't have a house, we lived in the dorms. We weren't a 'housed chapter." Drinking occurred and I don't believed it was breaking the rules. I could be wrong.

Each NPC member must "require a policy of alcohol-free facilities for housed chapters" is pretty straight forward at least as far as the chapters in houses go which is what the thread is about.

33girl · #7 07-14-2010, 09:10 PM

My point is what is and is not a "sorority house" is WIDE open to interpretation as that is written. Which is as it should be - it's up to the groups to define that, not to NPC.

greekmomjo · #8 08-04-2010, 10:50 PM

Living in the house for soph--sr year was a privilege I now appreciate more than I did then. There are plenty of other places to drink--that is a non-issue for me. And how nice was it to hang out in pjs and not have to worry about men?
My chapter did a study about the cost of living in vs. apt living and it was cheaper to live in the house (IF you ate many of your meals at the house--since food costs are included in housebill). Why the rush to clean your own toilet and hassle with the one deadbeat roommie who won't pay her share of the cable bill?