Feds to file lawsuit over Arizona immigration law

[starang21]

how different is this AZ law from what was previously going on? someone fact check me, but i thought immigration statuses were being verified during stops before this was ever passed.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by starang21

how different is this AZ law from what was previously going on?

Previously police could call immigration or check up on people if they suspected something but didn't have to. Now they're required if they suspect the person is illegal. I think the law was amended to make it clear that it had to be while ticketing/arresting someone, but I'm not 100% certain they couldn't walk up to a guy on the street and demand proof of legal status. (Maybe only if he's loitering while brown or something)

To your edit: Not necessarily, in some communities they overlook/ignore signs of illegal status in favor of catching the drug dealers/gang members/ etc. Turning in the people who might come to you for help means that people don't come forward. Similarly your average officer doesn't have the time/interest to hold someone for ICE.

Also, all immigrants must have documentation on them at all times stating that they're legal. I don't know that carrying it at all times was required previously.

And all of this is being done at the state level instead of by ICE investigation. I do wonder if it interferes with ICE investigations as they may be looking for the workplaces that hire illegal immigrants or the people who bring them over.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Previously police could call immigration or check up on people if they suspected something but didn't have to. Now they're required if they suspect the person is illegal. I think the law was amended to make it clear that it had to be while ticketing/arresting someone, but I'm not 100% certain they couldn't walk up to a guy on the street and demand proof of legal status. (Maybe only if he's loitering while brown or something)

To your edit: Not necessarily, in some communities they overlook/ignore signs of illegal status in favor of catching the drug dealers/gang members/ etc. Turning in the people who might come to you for help means that people don't come forward. Similarly your average officer doesn't have the time/interest to hold someone for ICE.

Also, all immigrants must have documentation on them at all times stating that they're legal. I don't know that carrying it at all times was required previously.

And all of this is being done at the state level instead of by ICE investigation. I do wonder if it interferes with ICE investigations as they may be looking for the workplaces that hire illegal immigrants or the people who bring them over.

ok, so they determine a person is illegal. then what? i didn't see anywhere that there were local penalties in addition to federal penalties. i don't think that states have the power to deport, right?

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by starang21

ok, so they determine a person is illegal. then what? i didn't see anywhere that there were local penalties in addition to federal penalties. i don't think that states have the power to deport, right?

They don't. Local authorities are to hand over suspected illegals to ICE.