More BS from the wacky world of Arizona

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Ya know, I had a feeling I would see your username over here, making your usual dumb contributions to "racial" discussions.

Have you looked around on that site; the language in some of those posts? Do you not see that it can be polarizing to people not on the " Everyone who is white is evil, racist, bigot, white-trash, Nazi" bandwagon?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Have you looked around on that site; the language in some of those posts? Do you not see that it can be polarizing to people not on the " Everyone who is white is evil, racist, bigot, white-trash, Nazi" bandwagon?

Wonkette has a bias, but there are plenty of other articles about this topic.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Wonkette has a bias, but there are plenty of other articles about this topic.

I know

It was stupid, leave the damn mural alone. He got his 15 seconds of fame and he lost his radio gig, hope he feels it was worth it.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I was lurking on that page because I've never heard of that site before, and I can see why. I'm sorry but any site/article that's against racism and bigotry yet freely uses "white trash" and stereo-types whites as gun owning nazi bigots loses credibility in my eyes.

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Have you looked around on that site; the language in some of those posts? Do you not see that it can be polarizing to people not on the " Everyone who is white is evil, racist, bigot, white-trash, Nazi" bandwagon?

I agree.

I don't consider that racism, but such bigotry should not be tolerated and is indicative of the ignorant trying to call out ignorance.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I agree.

I don't consider that racism, but such bigotry should not be tolerated and is indicative of the ignorant trying to call out ignorance.

I don't think ever in my life I've heard or seen or read so much "Us Vs. Them" talk in my life, aren't we supposed to be beyond this by now? It comes from both sides of the spectrum so no, it's not " pissed off middle aged WASPy tea baggers" behind all the contention.

That website, and others like it, IMHO sells fear and mistrust which leads to hatred. White supremacy groups use the same fear mongering techniques as well. These people are different, they have different values, they are holding you back, you are not getting a job/raise because of them.

Mind you I'm not saying that Wonkette is on par with the KKK but they are using the same playbook if you ask me.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I don't think ever in my life I've heard or seen or read so much "Us Vs. Them" talk in my life, aren't we supposed to be beyond this by now?

You need to get out the house more.

Anyway, bigotry doesn't move me either way. I was just co-signing about that website. Racism doesn't require bigotry so I hope prejudice and racial niceties are not what your racism-o-meter (also known as the "Are we there yet?"-o-meter) is based on. I also hope it isn't based on Obama and "some of my bestfriends are Black."

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You need to get out the house more.

I also hope it isn't based on Obama and "some of my bestfriends are Black."

I'm not racist, my cat is black.

I'm not sure I get the Obama reference. Do you mean the train of thought that racism is dead because we have a black president, or you just don't agree with/like Obama cuz he's black? Nope, I don't subscribe to either.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Do you mean the train of thought that racism is dead because we have a black president

This. You said you thought we were beyond "this" by now and I don't know why you would think that. Despite how well people have learned to hide their racial and ethnic prejudices, they still express them in more anonymous settings or settings where they feel they are around likeminded others.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This. You said you thought we were beyond "this" by now and I don't know why you would think that. Despite how well people have learned to hide their racial and ethnic prejudices, they still express them in more anonymous settings or settings where they feel they are around likeminded others.

I meant in an evolutionary way. I believe its our animal instincts that bring out racism and bigotry, it's because we humans are tribal.

Like the Miike Snow song "Animal"

I change shapes just to hide in this place but I'm still, I'm still an animal
Nobody knows it but me when I slip yeah I slip
I'm still an animal

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Have you looked around on that site; the language in some of those posts? Do you not see that it can be polarizing to people not on the " Everyone who is white is evil, racist, bigot, white-trash, Nazi" bandwagon?

Are you kidding me? No, I didn't look at the site, but I'm not surprised. I hate it when some people blame an entire race for their own problems.

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

aren't we supposed to be beyond this by now?

THIS
It's dumb.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This. You said you thought we were beyond "this" by now and I don't know why you would think that. Despite how well people have learned to hide their racial and ethnic prejudices, they still express them in more anonymous settings or settings where they feel they are around likeminded others.

Late back into this thread, but what's been going on in Arizona and Texas should clearly show the opposite of the US being beyond anything right now.

it's like the real nuts are coming out of the closet en masse.

I chuckle when people think just because the US has a black president racism automatically goes away...

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Have you looked around on that site; the language in some of those posts? Do you not see that it can be polarizing to people not on the " Everyone who is white is evil, racist, bigot, white-trash, Nazi" bandwagon?

Thank you.

Furthermore, I don't understand how the "Tea Party" is somehow racist or prejudice because it happens to be mostly white (although anecdotally, the Tea Parties I've attended have had plenty Hispanics, African-Americans, etc). If that was the basis for judging such prejudices, then I think you would have to consider BET (among other things) as racist. I don't, it doesn't make sense, but it would have to be the same line of thinking. [For MysticCat, I'm not responding to PiKA, I'm responding to the article.]

A common complaint is something to the effect of "well, it's racist because a few members hurled racial slurs." Whether or not that is true is one thing (I'm sure someone can provide a video where it proves it, whatever), the same line of thinking would have to follow that the Democratic party is racist as some of it's members have taken to racial slurs (speaking of course of Robert Byrd and Lyndon B. Johnson). It's just more irrationalism, on both sides.