New SCOTUS nominee

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

To the point in red...what does that have to do with my post? I never equated the two. I said if I was guessing her sexuality Id say shes gay. I also said I could see the people on the Maury show (when deciding if a man or woman) could mistake her for a man (because she does look like at least one man in particular). These statements in no way attempt to equate sexuality with being transgener.

Your combination of the "lesbo" comment and the "she's a man" one implied that you might have difficulty with the concept.

The orange point....Some people do look like they could be homosexual. Very effiminate males look like they could be homosexuals as do very masculine women. It isnt funny to you. I was actually lol as I was typing because the concept of "looks gay" is rather funny to me and because seeing a SCOUS nominee on Maury is a funny thought. Could you imagine what she'd wear during the swimsuit portion?

The concept of looking gay is funny to you but you believe it? You laugh at your own jokes a lot?

So masculine gay males and feminine lesbian women don't exist? Or they're just not fitting the "funny" sterotype in your head? It's not funny to me because it's outright wrong.

To the green point....That'd probably make some sense if I said that or if I was a man. Since Im a woman that kind of falls little flat as I pick attractiveness based on what I think and not on what I think men think is attractive. And its not her being ugly that makes me think she's gay. See below for that info. Gabby (who played Precious) is not incredibly attractive to me, but she doesnt look gay either. Hell Sotomayor isnt cute either but I dont think she's gay. Its not a bad thing to be homosexual or to be mistaken for being homosexual. I think some of y'all have your diapers in a wad because YOURE the ones with the issue. Gay is not a slur.

Your argument is the sexist equivalent of "You have a problem because you see the racism in what I'm saying, not because I'm saying something racist."

I'm complaining about the use of "gay" or go help us "Lesbo" (SERIOUSLY?) because it is being used AS a slur. That is wrong. So is assuming you know someone's sexual orientation based on their looks.
Also, women can buy into sexism, gay people can buy into heterosexism, and so on. Either you're doing it intentionally or you're unaware, either way it's still coming from your fingers.

To the blue point....Kagan doesnt even sound good. And you're probably as familiar with Kagan as you are with Williams if you read the Wiki article (thats how little we know about Kagan). Realistically she has no judicial eperience (beyond academia and studying something and applying it in the real world are two very different things) and we have no idea where she stands on most issues and what kind of choices she would make as a justice. While I love Obama there aint that much Kool-Aid in the world that I'd just go along with his pick for a lifetime position on the supreme court because he knows her and he likes her. That is NOT qualified. If you make a choice you have to justify that choice and there is no supporting evidence for Kagan at all. To say that we shouldnt oppose her because Obama probably knows her beliefs well is total Bull. If this were a Bush nominee (liberals and Dems)people would be giving way more push back on this choice. I know Id be questioning her selection more if it came from Bush b/c he's not the brightest person ever. As a independent voter I question every president's decisions that arent supported by evidence. She does not have the necessary qualifications and experience and we do not know nearly enough about her to appoint her to the highest court in the land for the rest of her life!

I never said that you should support her or not, I just said that Obama probably knows her views even though we don't. It's ok to have legit complaints. I know more about Kagan now because there's been so much discussion about her. I think she's qualified based on her experience, even though she hasn't been a judge.

I dont think that looking gay points to a genetic reason for homosexuals. It points to someone's mannerisms, looks, and general image being similar to that of homosexuals that the person making the comment has encountered. A person who looks gay shouldnt worry about looking gay its not a crime. They should expect that people are going to ask the question. Again Im not against her as nominee because she looks gay. Im against her because of her lack of experience and a better choice (who is a black woman) being available.

No one 'looks gay' unless they're making out with someone of the same sex right in front of you. That's looking gay.

Now, personally I beileve that being gay isn't a choice but that leading a gay lifestyle is. You can hide being gay or you can choose to deny your sexual orientation and lead a "hetero" lifestyle if you wish. None of that changes that youre gay.

the only thing "gay" about a "gay lifestyle" is the "loving/engaging in sexual acts with someone of the same sex." Everything else is "a lifestyle." So, you believe that people who are gay can choose to be celibate, not "choose not to live a gay lifestyle." I don't think that should be forced or expected of anyone who doesn't freely choose it.