New SCOTUS nominee

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Though we don't know Kagan's opinions, Obama likely does since he taught with her and interacted with her, it appears, as friends and colleagues and later in her role as SG. Even if her pre-nomination interview didn't address any of these "litmus tests" it is a safe bet that Obama didn't go in blind.

I like the sound of Williams. However I'm fairly unfamiliar with her. If she is that prominent then odds are she's on a list for future consideration (whether for SC Justice or other higher level positions).

Your last paragraph though, *sigh.* There is no "looks gay." It's weird how you felt like you had to punctuate every sentence with lol. Because it isn't funny. It's stereotyping, and depending on where it comes from it is prejudicial. To say that a woman should look a certain way, generally in a way that is attractive to men, or she'll be called 'lesbo' or 'that's a man' is both buying into the sexist view of women existing for men's pleasure and treating sexual orientation/gender identity as a punishment.

Also, lesbian =/= transgender.

To the point in red...what does that have to do with my post? I never equated the two. I said if I was guessing her sexuality Id say shes gay. I also said I could see the people on the Maury show (when deciding if a man or woman) could mistake her for a man (because she does look like at least one man in particular). These statements in no way attempt to equate sexuality with being transgener.

The orange point....Some people do look like they could be homosexual. Very effiminate males look like they could be homosexuals as do very masculine women. It isnt funny to you. I was actually lol as I was typing because the concept of "looks gay" is rather funny to me and because seeing a SCOUS nominee on Maury is a funny thought. Could you imagine what she'd wear during the swimsuit portion?

To the green point....That'd probably make some sense if I said that or if I was a man. Since Im a woman that kind of falls little flat as I pick attractiveness based on what I think and not on what I think men think is attractive. And its not her being ugly that makes me think she's gay. See below for that info. Gabby (who played Precious) is not incredibly attractive to me, but she doesnt look gay either. Hell Sotomayor isnt cute either but I dont think she's gay. Its not a bad thing to be homosexual or to be mistaken for being homosexual. I think some of y'all have your diapers in a wad because YOURE the ones with the issue. Gay is not a slur.


To the blue point....Kagan doesnt even sound good. And you're probably as familiar with Kagan as you are with Williams if you read the Wiki article (thats how little we know about Kagan). Realistically she has no judicial eperience (beyond academia and studying something and applying it in the real world are two very different things) and we have no idea where she stands on most issues and what kind of choices she would make as a justice. While I love Obama there aint that much Kool-Aid in the world that I'd just go along with his pick for a lifetime position on the supreme court because he knows her and he likes her. That is NOT qualified. If you make a choice you have to justify that choice and there is no supporting evidence for Kagan at all. To say that we shouldnt oppose her because Obama probably knows her beliefs well is total Bull. If this were a Bush nominee (liberals and Dems)people would be giving way more push back on this choice. I know Id be questioning her selection more if it came from Bush b/c he's not the brightest person ever. As a independent voter I question every president's decisions that arent supported by evidence. She does not have the necessary qualifications and experience and we do not know nearly enough about her to appoint her to the highest court in the land for the rest of her life!

Originally Posted by AGDee

I find it interesting that many of the same people who will say that someone "looks" gay also believe that being gay is a choice. If there was a "look" to gay, then wouldn't that point to a genetic reason for homosexuality? And, just what is a person who "looks gay" supposed to do? Plastic surgery? And, since when is attractiveness a qualification for SCOTUS?


Tell me which among them is attractive. Quite honestly, I don't think any of them are.

I dont think that looking gay points to a genetic reason for homosexuals. It points to someone's mannerisms, looks, and general image being similar to that of homosexuals that the person making the comment has encountered. A person who looks gay shouldnt worry about looking gay its not a crime. They should expect that people are going to ask the question. Again Im not against her as nominee because she looks gay. Im against her because of her lack of experience and a better choice (who is a black woman) being available.

I didnt mention that she's unattractive (though she is to me) as the reason she shouldnt be nominee. Also, there are some very attractive gay people. Being gay doesnt mean youre automatically unattractive. I said she isnt well qualified, we've got NO idea how she'd actually vote (that she is a liberal doesnt say much or enough), and there is a better qualified black woman who I'd rather see/have seen selected.

Now, personally I beileve that being gay isn't a choice but that leading a gay lifestyle is. You can hide being gay or you can choose to deny your sexual orientation and lead a "hetero" lifestyle if you wish. None of that changes that youre gay.