Sandra Bullock Adopts & Confirms Divorce

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

Obviously, I don't personally know Sandra Bullock, but as someone who has looked into adoption (and just keeps debating all the ethics back and forth ad nauseum), I wouldn't automatically assume that she just chose a black baby just to choose a black baby. Statistically, the majority of people looking to adopt in America are white and the majority of children available for adoption are not. Generally, it is a longer wait for a white baby (it is also usually more expensive and the criteria for adoptive parents tend to be stricter, but I doubt that these are ever considerations if you are a rich celebrity ...).

These celebs could get white babies if they wanted to. I seriously doubt that the other white families have adopted most of the white babies across the country. If "race didn't matter and we just wanted a baby," then.....

Getting a Black baby from New Orleans (Black + Hurrican Katrina = WIN) is still no coincidence.

Just like Madonna and Angelina Jolie didn't just stumble upon Black babies and other nonwhite babies from overseas. The race and ethnicity mattered for some reason, such as attempting to help babies of different races or having a more diverse family. So, there's no reason to pretend the race and ethnicity are invisible physical, social and cultural traits that were unnoticed and didn't matter then or now.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

Hmm...I didn't even think about that. I don't get his Neo Nazi crap. If he is then she had to have known. If it's in his past (like I hope it is) maybe she wasn't exposed to it, but I just can't help but feel like how could she not know?

Anyways, I think the baby is GORGEOUS and I am happy for both him and his mommy. What an awesome and beautiful and motivation thing to come out of such a horrible situation. I still commented to a friend that I hope she's able to teach him proper police etiquette.

I don't know many details on the adoption, just that I heard on Inside Edition (?) that she adopted the baby because of her involvement with Katrina and she didn't just get him recently. They talked about how getting around with the baby was almost like a CIA operation because they wanted to keep it a secret for as long as possible.

And there are MANY circumstances where one spouse hides a certain part of their life from the other. That's how a lot of spouses get away with having two separate lives. You never really truly know someone.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Getting a Black baby from New Orleans (Black + Hurrican Katrina = WIN) is still no coincidence.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Just like Madonna and Angelina Jolie didn't just stumble upon Black babies and other nonwhite babies from overseas. The race and ethnicity mattered for some reason, such as attempting to help babies of different races or having a more diverse family. So, there's no reason to pretend the race and ethnicity are invisible physical, social and cultural traits that were unnoticed and didn't matter then or now.

True enough - I would hope that no one ever thinks that the race and ethnicity of their child (adopted or not) are invisible and don't matter.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

True enough - I would hope that no one ever thinks that the race and ethnicity of their child (adopted or not) are invisible and don't matter.

A lot of people pretend that. Welcome to "we're all in the same gang."

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

A lot of people pretend that. Welcome to "we're all in the same gang."

Wasn't that a rap song? I remember some high-pitched voice saying "we're all in the same gang."

I will say, though, that the little baby has a funny smirk on his face. I love it when babies look like they know what's up.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Wasn't that a rap song? I remember some high-pitched voice saying "we're all in the same gang."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFmiKodg1tc

I still love this song.

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I will say, though, that the little baby has a funny smirk on his face. I love it when babies look like they know what's up.

LOL

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

A lot of people pretend that. Welcome to "we're all in the same gang."

So true, which is why adoption agencies back in the day (not so much now I guess since there are so many non-white children that need homes) had issues with whites adopting non-white children. Pretending your child is not non-white and acting like race/color doesn't matter, does not help a non-white child develop well psychologically and appreciate and love everything about themselves. Since children want to be just like their parents, not looking like their parents and family members around them can lead to a very distorted image of themselves; a feeling that how they look is wrong and bad. It is so important for non-white families (and families in general) to embrace a non-white child's ethnicity and constantly reinforce the message that the child may look different but is no less beautiful and valued.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

So true, which is why adoption agencies back in the day (not so much now I guess since there are so many non-white children that need homes) had issues with whites adopting non-white children. Pretending your child is not non-white and acting like race/color doesn't matter, does not help a non-white child develop well psychologically and appreciate and love everything about themselves. Since children want to be just like their parents, not looking like their parents and family members around them can lead to a very distorted image of themselves; a feeling that how they look is wrong and bad. It is so important for non-white families (and families in general) to embrace a non-white child's ethnicity and constantly reinforce the message that the child may look different but is no less beautiful and valued.

Agreed. I think though that it is better to have a white family adopt and raise a non-white child in that environment than to have the child raised in "the system."

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Agreed. I think though that it is better to have a white family adopt and raise a non-white child in that environment than to have the child raised in "the system."

I want to agree with you but I am not so certain of that now. I've met some very messed up non-white individuals who were raised in white families where their race/color was never mentioned and while they don't say it, you can tell that they hate their physical appearance.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I want to agree with you but I am not so certain of that now. I've met some very messed up non-white individuals who were raised in white families where their race/color was never mentioned and while they don't say it, you can tell that they hate their physical appearance.

And I know some messed up white and non-white people that hate themselves for lots of other reasons. Raising kids is tough business. There are lots of ways to screw up.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I want to agree with you but I am not so certain of that now. I've met some very messed up non-white individuals who were raised in white families where their race/color was never mentioned and while they don't say it, you can tell that they hate their physical appearance.

I've met some very messed up non-white individuals who were raised in their family of origin, where they were criticized for being "too dark" or "too light," or for the texture of their hair; even though they don't say it, you can tell that they hate their physical appearance. Anyone can mess up a kid.

I also thought the "white families shouldn't adopt black children" wasn't perpetrated by the agencies, but by misguided black nationalism in the 70s. In fact, I believe it was black social workers who said straight-up that white parents shouldn't adopt black children, instead of focusing on giving the child a good home and giving them the tools to raise a black child in a white home.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

These celebs could get white babies if they wanted to. I seriously doubt that the other white families have adopted most of the white babies across the country. If "race didn't matter and we just wanted a baby," then.....

Pretty much.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Getting a Black baby from New Orleans (Black + Hurrican Katrina = WIN) is still no coincidence.

Is the Hurricane Katrina reference thrown in there just because that's what people think of now when they think of New Orleans? Because the baby in question clearly isn't a Katrina baby (by about 4 years).

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Is the Hurricane Katrina reference thrown in there just because that's what people think of now when they think of New Orleans? Because the baby in question clearly isn't a Katrina baby (by about 4 years).

Sandra Bullock has been active and outspoken about Hurrican Katrina. And also this (if it's accurate) is no coincidence: http://www.sevensidedcube.net/entert...n-new-orleans/

As for "Katrina baby" (I hate that stupid term), Hurricane Katrina was 2005. The adoption process began about 4 years ago. The baby is a few months old. That could mean a number of things as it pertains to this baby's parents of birth, Hurricane Katrina, and why the baby was ultimately up for adoption.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Sandra Bullock has been active and outspoken about Hurrican Katrina. And also this (if it's accurate) is no coincidence: http://www.sevensidedcube.net/entert...n-new-orleans/

As for "Katrina baby" (I hate that stupid term), Hurricane Katrina was 2005. The adoption process began about 4 years ago. The baby is a few months old. That could mean a number of things as it pertains to this baby's parents of birth, Hurricane Katrina, and why the baby was ultimately up for adoption.

I have to agree with Dr. Phil. Why would she choose to adopt from NO? She's not from Louisiana. She's from TX. Aren't there plenty of babies in TX that need a home? But she came to Louisiana and picked a black baby from New Orleans...can't just be a coincidence. (Now I'm writing like I'm still in Louisiana...guess I should type, She went to Louisinana...)