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Old 04-21-2010, 12:36 AM
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Once again, that is simply false. I am not looking to be a member of another organization. I do not want to be initiated, I do not want to be considered a brother, nor will it simply be us. There will be people who are not currently greek who will be the leaders, we will be there to help improve recruiting, organization, and the social re-integration back into the campus.
Not currently Greek? Are you unaware that the alumni who work at HQ, on the housing board, the advisers - the people who will be making major decisions including who becomes members of the colony - are alumni members of the fraternity. You obviously haven't learned that brotherhood is for life.

As for the "WE" - are you talking about you and the defectors? Why would ABC fraternity want members of XYZ handling any part of the colonization? Most of the business of colonization is privy only to MEMBERS.

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Both myself and 20 other brothers have worked tirelessly for the past year to try to change the way things are going, but we simply do not have the numbers. We can not get elected to positions, we cannot even have a legitimate effect on voting on potential new members. It's a lost cause.
One pledge class can change everything. You just haven't tried hard enough.
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:39 AM
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Not currently Greek? Are you unaware that the alumni who work at HQ, on the housing board, the advisers - the people who will be making major decisions including who becomes members of the colony - are alumni members of the fraternity. You obviously haven't learned that brotherhood is for life.

As for the "WE" - are you talking about you and the defectors? Why would ABC fraternity want members of XYZ handling any part of the colonization? Most of the business of colonization is privy only to MEMBERS.



One pledge class can change everything. You just haven't tried hard enough.
An additional two pledge classes have come through and only compounded the problem.

The specific fraternity is slowing loosing its foothold on campus, it is dangerously close to having people forget it ever existed on this campus. If it wants to come back, which alumni are making it fairly obvious that they would support an attempt, it has to be now.

It may not be ideal, but it would benefit both parties involved.
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:43 AM
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It may not be ideal, but it would benefit both parties involved.


How?

I still fail to see how your being a member of a colony for like 8 weeks and quitting is really going to do for it.

The people who really contribute to the growth of a fraternity are those guys who stay with it.

Your idea is full of fail.

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Old 04-21-2010, 12:48 AM
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How?

I still fail to see how your being a member of a colony for like 8 weeks and quitting is really going to do for it.

The people who really contribute to the growth of a fraternity are those guys who stay with it.

Your idea is full of fail.

And those men who contribute to the growth of the fraternity will be great men, those will be the people that are asked about in pledge quizzes in thirty years, not me.

The simple fact of creating something which we all know is possible and can envision, and seeing it come to light is enough for all of us.
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:50 AM
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And those men who contribute to the growth of the fraternity will be great men, those will be the people that are asked about in pledge quizzes in thirty years, not me.

The simple fact of creating something which we all know is possible and can envision, and seeing it come to light is enough for all of us.
But you aren't creating anything...
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Old 04-21-2010, 10:34 AM
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An additional two pledge classes have come through and only compounded the problem.

The specific fraternity is slowing loosing its foothold on campus, it is dangerously close to having people forget it ever existed on this campus. If it wants to come back, which alumni are making it fairly obvious that they would support an attempt, it has to be now.

It may not be ideal, but it would benefit both parties involved.

The RIGHT pledge class, not any old pledge class you YOU and your brothers decided to vote in. Choose better pledges and you'll get better brothers. Don't choose just to get numbers.
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Old 04-21-2010, 10:44 AM
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ree-Xi: Don't choose just to get numbers.

Excellent Point!!!!! Numbers do not mean S**T if they are not producing any results.
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:29 AM
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Though I do know a lot about NPC extension, I'll admit I am no expert on NIC extension procedures. Still, I'd imagine the school has to approve the recolonization of Strong Southern Fraternity, and it would be up to those two parties to decide when the best time to return would be, and that may very well be AFTER you graduate.

Strong Southern Fraternity will be back at your SEC school at some point if they are as strong in the South as you say they are. They probably own their house. Point is, it's a matter of when, not if, and they don't need you to help them. The decision of when they return is not going to be up to you. Why would they even want a group of guys with no concept of loyalty recruiting members for them?

North-South differences aside, I'm sorry your chapter became something you don't like. I'm sorry you're in the minority. I'm sorry you've given up trying to improve your chapter. But most of all, I'm sorry that you don't give a shit about your alumni membership to the point where you'd throw it away to be able to say that you "helped" a strong, presitigious organization that doesn't need your help in the first place.

Your fraternity is so much bigger than your chapter. You might find that you connect with members from other chapters (from the South, of course) when you are an alumnus. College is 4 (or maybe 5 or 6) years, and your alumni membership is for the rest of your life. If you keep your membership, you can help your own chapter recolonize once the ding-dongs manage to get themselves kicked off as well.

ETA: Out of 80 members, 15-20 who give a shit about the chapter and work to enact change ARE enough.
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:38 PM
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It took me about 2 seconds to figure out where this kid goes....I'm thinking Bama. It then took me another 3 seconds to figure out what fraternity he is in. I won't say out of respect for his Org. (even though he clearly doesn't have any respect for it). The point is, Jeff-you should just disaffiliate and stop making your GLO look bad. I have horrible sleuth skills and there are many GCers on here who have 99% better sleuth skills than me and I would be willing to put money on it that you attend either Bama (I won't say how I know that) or...at least LSU. Just remember that just because some of us may not attend your school, doesn't mean we don't have brothers/ sisters who attend it. Discretion is key.
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