Difficult Recolonization Question

[KSUViolet06]

I think you're exaggerating your potential "importance" here.

You wouldn't be gaining the tradition of anything.

You wouldn't be initiated.

You wouldn't be considered members.

You wouldn't be remembered for doing anything.

That honor goes to those gentlemen who follow through and charter the group.

You'd just be some people who pledged a fraternity colony and never initiated.

Sorry.

If I met a girl who pledged a Tri Sigma colony but never initiated, who thought she was my sister or something and that I was going to think she was so important to the colony founding, she'd have the wrong thing coming.

I'd chuckle, hard.

[JCunningham]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I think you're exaggerating your potential "importance" here.

You wouldn't be gaining the tradition of anything.

You wouldn't be initiated.

You wouldn't be considered members.

You wouldn't be remembered for doing anything.

That honor goes to those gentlemen who follow through and charter the group.

You'd just be some people who pledged a fraternity colony and never initiated.

Sorry.

If I met a girl who pledged a Tri Sigma colony but never initiated, who thought she was my sister or something and that I was going to think she was so important to the colony founding, she'd have the wrong thing coming.

I'm not looking to become a brother.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by JCunningham

I'm not looking to become a brother.

What are you looking to do?

I'm just saying that you are thinking that your joining this colony and recruiting some guys for it is going to mean something if you never initiate.

The only person who is going to really care is you.

If you meet a member of that org and you tell him "Oh I pledged your colony and did this this and this but I'm not a brother" he's gonna be like "Um, ok."

The credit for the growth and longevity of a colony goes to the MEMBERS.

If you're okay with nobody caring about what you did, go for it.

[JCunningham]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

What are you looking to do?

I'm just saying that you are thinking that your joining this colony and recruiting some guys for it is going to mean something if you never initiate.

The only person who is going to really care is you.

If you meet a member of that org and you tell him "Oh I pledged your colony and did this this and this but I'm not a brother" he's gonna be like "Um, ok."

The credit for the growth and longevity of a colony goes to the MEMBERS.

If you're okay with nobody caring about what you did, go for it.

I am not looking for any credit, any respect, I am not looking to gain anything by being a colony member of this certain fraternity. I am aware that I will always be a member of my current fraternity, and that will never change.

What I am looking to do is with my current brothers is to start a new chapter on the values we believe to be true, which can thrive on our campus. If down the road after it were to be founded, it thrived, the simple fact that knowing I had a very minimal part helping to create something that helped others improve themselves to be better men, well that would be more than enough for me.

I am not looking to tell people that I am a member of this fraternity, to use it for networking connections, or anything like that.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by JCunningham

I am not looking for any credit, any respect, I am not looking to gain anything by being a colony member of this certain fraternity. I am aware that I will always be a member of my current fraternity, and that will never change.

What I am looking to do is with my current brothers is to start a new chapter on the values we believe to be true, which can thrive on our campus. If down the road after it were to be founded, it thrived, the simple fact that knowing I had a very minimal part helping to create something that helped others improve themselves to be better men, well that would be more than enough for me.

I am not looking to tell people that I am a member of this fraternity, to use it for networking connections, or anything like that.

Imagine if you took all this energy and wanting to help others become better men, and applied this to your own fraternity. Since you'll always be a member of your fraternity and not initiate into a new one...charity starts at home and all that.

[JCunningham]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Imagine if you took all this energy and wanting to help others become better men, and applied this to your own fraternity. Since you'll always be a member of your fraternity and not initiate into a new one...charity starts at home and all that.

Both myself and 20 other brothers have worked tirelessly for the past year to try to change the way things are going, but we simply do not have the numbers. We can not get elected to positions, we cannot even have a legitimate effect on voting on potential new members. It's a lost cause.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by JCunningham

Both myself and 20 other brothers have worked tirelessly for the past year to try to change the way things are going, but we simply do not have the numbers. We can not get elected to positions, we cannot even have a legitimate effect on voting on potential new members. It's a lost cause.

Why not go and recruit members to your fraternity (you said your numbers were low) who would be potential colony members (your kind of people) and then over throw the guidos? If they are cut from the same cloth as you they may enjoy an insurrection to remove tanning and hair gel from Greek Life, and replace it with rainbows and Vineyard Vines (or whatever's hot in the SEC these days). How can your HQ not support membership growth? They'd totally support new members, and some not crummy alumni might loan you a beach house to get better members.

Required reading doesn't include Machiavaelli's The Prince and Sun Tzu's The Art of War anymore? Real good information in those.

Bonus points for getting the Jersey Shore crowd in unsavory photos, and having your HQ kick them out administratively, saves you the work. They probably won't be mistaken for regular people with their Christian Audigier shirts and pooka shell necklaces. Let them plan a foam party, call the cops to bust it, and be elsewhere (say duck hunting in Stuttgart?) so you're innocent.