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Old 04-14-2010, 08:07 PM
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Dude, you have over 400 years of proof that no way in hell were whites north or south were just going to up and give slaves in America equal citizen status. When a mindset of a population over 200 years ago equated a subset of humans and lesser than monkeys and barbaric there is no way that population will right off the bat say, "Oh sure, go own lots of land", "Oh sure, come to my schools and sit in my church.","Oh and yes, you can run for public office...even be president in the 1880's" especially when they spent the first 200 years systematically wiping their culture out.


The statement posted above isn't the only argument. The sentiment of America as a whole in the 1800s from various writings and attitudes show that whites were not willing to give up nor share their power with those they kept subservient to them.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:15 PM
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Dude, you have over 400 years of proof that no way in hell were whites north or south were just going to up and give slaves in America equal citizen status. When a mindset of a population over 200 years ago equated a subset of humans and lesser than monkeys and barbaric there is no way that population will right off the bat say, "Oh sure, go own lots of land", "Oh sure, come to my schools and sit in my church.","Oh and yes, you can run for public office...even be president in the 1880's" especially when they spent the first 200 years systematically wiping their culture out.
Agreed. I haven't argued any less than such.

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The statement posted above isn't the only argument. The sentiment of America as a whole in the 1800s from various writings and attitudes show that whites were not willing to give up nor share their power with those they kept subservient to them.
Absolutely. That's what government intervention'll do to ya. (I still haven't figured out the attitudes of those who were oppressed by the government, yet want the very same government to fix many of the problems...but that's a debate for another time and place)
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:33 PM
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VS, you really know a lot of history. A lot of this, I didn't even know about. I need to read more about other things.
I have a BA in History, with a definite emphasis in war/military, and a secondary study area of Native Americans and Alaska Natives, as well as First Nations people. What I know of Indigenous people of Mexico and further south is less, other than people who live on La Frontera. Somehow I also have this random emphasis in film, which everyone thinks is a joke but actually was quite challenging.
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