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03-31-2010, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fantASTic
I think this is less of a "Whose Lane Are You In Anyways?" game and more of a divide on the moral idea of what is and what is not hazing. My sorority doesn't march. I think it's hazing. The two ideas might be correlated; they might not. They might be RELATED; they might not be. But it's a little presumptuous to go ahead and say that just because she's an NPC member that she can't have an opinion on whether something is morally wrong.
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It's not about what lane she's in, it's about her ignorance on what is and is not hazing to organizations outside her own council.
This is not much different from non-NPC organizations thinking it's LAME that most NPC "new members" wear letters before initiation. Thinking it's LAME doesn't make it morally wrong. Just lame to you.
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03-31-2010, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I
It's not about what lane she's in, it's about her ignorance on what is and is not hazing to organizations outside her own council.
This is not much different from non-NPC organizations thinking it's LAME that most NPC "new members" wear letters before initiation. Thinking it's LAME doesn't make it morally wrong. Just lame to you.
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It is different, because you can think it's lame but you don't think it's MORALLY WRONG. And I will clarify; the distinction between being morally wrong and thinking something is morally wrong depends simply on what you think. Morally wrong is different for everyone.
Wearing letters before initiation couldn't be considered hazing at all. Surely you can see how someone might see forced marching as hazing, whether or not you think so?
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03-31-2010, 07:31 PM
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It is different, because you can think it's lame but you don't think it's MORALLY WRONG. And I will clarify; the distinction between being morally wrong and thinking something is morally wrong depends simply on what you think. Morally wrong is different for everyone.
Wearing letters before initiation couldn't be considered hazing at all. Surely you can see how someone might see forced marching as hazing, whether or not you think so?
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I think that allowing your new members to wear letters is morally wrong and detrimental to the entire Greek community because you're giving shit away.
See how it doesn't have to be hazing for it to be morally wrong? Wait, is it morally wrong or is it just something you think is lame?
Is this hazing to you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhEyQAzffdA
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03-31-2010, 07:33 PM
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OMG, I wouldn't stand for that.
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03-31-2010, 07:35 PM
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OMG, I wouldn't stand for that.
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And in broad daylight!!! The nerve!
The dude in the hat is a hottie though.
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03-31-2010, 07:38 PM
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Talkin bout good and bad hair.
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Whether you're dark or you're fair...
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And in broad daylight!!! The nerve!
The dude in the hat is a hottie though.
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I ain't see all that...
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04-01-2010, 08:31 AM
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OMG, I wouldn't stand for that.
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Don't worry, I'm reporting them RIGHT now.
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04-01-2010, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I
I think that allowing your new members to wear letters is morally wrong and detrimental to the entire Greek community because you're giving shit away.
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04-01-2010, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by thetaphi04
To those first who think that this 'marching' is not considered hazing... try using your real brains.
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I do use my real brains. My real brains help me read and comprehend actual relevant state laws, GLO policies and academic institution policies on what does and does not constitute hazing.
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Wearing letters before initiation couldn't be considered hazing at all.
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He was referring to the fact that many times posters here have made it abundently clear that not allowing people to wear letters before initiation IS WITHOUT A DOUBT hazing. Meanwhile, many of our orgs prohibit wearing letters before initiation.
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04-01-2010, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I
I think that allowing your new members to wear letters is morally wrong and detrimental to the entire Greek community because you're giving shit away.
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RNS right there. I want it in my siggy.
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No. She said, I think it's wrong and that's why I joined TFA; because they don't do stuff like that which I believe to be wrong.
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LOL @ the throwback GC funny.
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