Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

[agzg]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I never mentioned anything about unemployed people on facebook.

Originally Posted by agzg

In general, and not really directed toward you, PiKA:
I also don't think it's particularly fair to bash people for getting on facebook or what have you. When I was unemployed, I did the bulk of my resume sending in the evenings/late at night. I would spend pleeeeenty of time online doing other things (greekchat, facebook, twitter, whatever) because there's only so much TV you can watch in a day. Also, I think people downplay multitasking. How long does it take to update a facebook status? 5-30 seconds? Does that really take a super huge chunk out of applying time?

RIF.

[DrPhil]

Okay, so fuck Tom Delay and those who agree that the average unemployed person is so because he/she thinks it's a kick-ass way to be.

On another note....

MSN's Love Your Job in 4 Steps:

http://msn.careerbuilder.com/custom/msn/careeradvice/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=2193

The part that stood out most to me and speaks to this thread:

4. Just do it
Get disciplined and don't allow self-doubt to keep you from moving forward.
· It's not personal: Don't let false pride slow you down. Get your face or résumé in front of every friend or prospective career opportunity.
· Run the numbers: Get as many interviews and résumés sent as possible. Make it fun! Run up the numbers.
· Be proud of every "No": Don't fret over rejections; it will only diminish your self-confidence.

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Yep. I agree. As I was driving home today, I drove past Burger King and there was a "Now Hiring" sign out in front. I mean, I know it's flipping burgers for pennies, but at least it's a temporary job until you get something else.

This is retarded. You do understand that your comment just proves the point of everyone who has been saying, over and over, that hiring managers know that people are thinking like this and aren't willing to take the risk:
NO...ONE...WILL...HIRE...THE...OVERQUALIFIED...IND IVIDUAL...BECAUSE...THEY...KNOW...THEY...WILL...LE AVE...WHEN/IF...THEY...FIND...SOMETHING...BETTER.

I'm really starting to believe that some of you aren't reading the thread and are just agreeing with people for the sake of agreeing with them. You should probably sit this one out too, at least until you catch up.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Degrees don't equal skills, I'm sorry. I like to ask unemployed grads what they studied in school, and it's usually something along the lines of art history or Chicano studies. That's great if you want to study that for personal enrichment but to expect to get a viable career out of it is unrealistic in my mind.

Excellent, excellent point.

And THIS, m'friends is where the disconnect is. When colleges went from being institutions of higher learning where you learned a field of study for personal enrichment to being white collar trade schools under the guise of such (with colleges turning into big money businesses), then the market was obviously going to get saturated with a lot of educated but unskilled or limited-skilled individuals, leaving some people to be simply without a career-oriented job, hence at least part of the problem we're having today.

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Didn't you say you were unemployed right now? Does that mean you don't know how to hustle?

You should probably stop posting and go shovel someone's sidewalk.

YES! LOL

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Excellent, excellent point.

And THIS, m'friends is where the disconnect is. When colleges went from being institutions of higher learning where you learned a field of study for personal enrichment to being white collar trade schools under the guise of such (with colleges turning into big money businesses), then the market was obviously going to get saturated with a lot of educated but unskilled or limited-skilled individuals, leaving some people to be simply without a career-oriented job, hence at least part of the problem we're having today.

Both of you, Shut.Up. There are people on here who have stated they have degrees in business, social work, some type of health related field, etc. KAPital, you should probably be hustling instead of being on GC.

[PiKA2001]

[QUOTE=LatinaAlumna;1906471]Do you ever proofread your "arguments" to see if they make sense? LMAO!



What's the matter, hit too close to home?

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by AGDee

A lot of the "advice" being given may apply to a young person who can live with their parents or live in a studio apartment and eat ramen noodles and boxed mac n cheese everyday. It does NOT apply to a 40/50 something with a home, a car payment, and two kids to support...

This advice applies to EVERYONE, regardless of situation. If you have a marketable skill, this applies to you.

When you work jobs like cleaning houses, etc, there are no benefits, hence, no health insurance, so when your child gets sicks, it costs more than a week's pay to get them in to see a doctor.

That's a weak argument, because even if you were cleaning houses, you are making money, therefore you can buy your own self-employed benefits. I have my own health insurance policy, my own disability insurance policy, and if you want a retirement plan, you can get a SEP. And best of all they are all (save for disability insurance) tax deductible, above the line (reduces your AGI).

Going back to school costs money.

Then forego school until you can afford it. FWIW, it should be obvious just by the volume of unemployed "educated" people here that for the most part, college has ran a scam on a lot of folks, and pocketed a ton of cash in the process. Remember when I said that money doesn't disappear, it only gets transferred to those with a better hustle? This is a prime example.

We ARE in a crisis. I don't think anybody is saying that people should just be paid unemployment forever. However, until we pull out of this recession, the humane thing to do is to help people until they can get back on their feet.

Ok, as long as the individuals are doing it out of their own volition, I have no problem with that. However, the government should stay out of this because they cannot afford to continue doing this; they do not have the money available to do it. Period, pointblank.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by Prettyface08

Both of you, Shut.Up. There are people on here who have stated they have degrees in business, social work, some type of health related field, etc.

So? With all that education, you should be able to find a skill to market yourself with, and also know how to market yourself effectively. Sounds to me like I hit a nerve and you can't handle it.

Originally Posted by Prettyface08

KAPital, you should probably be hustling instead of being on GC.

Believe it or not, I actually am doing it while online; I'm just on lunch break for the moment.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by agzg

RIF.

I read it the first time dipshit, you said, not really directed toward you PiKa. If the statement is "not really" directed towards me then why even mention me or facebook when responding?

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

What's the matter, hit too close to home?

PiKA2001, I think both our arguments are hitting too close to home. When people grasp at straws trying to find something, anything to refute or invalidate our points, we must've hit a nail on the head somewhere.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I read it the first time dipshit, you said, not really directed toward you PiKa. If the statement is "not really" directed towards me then why even mention me or facebook when responding?

I was referencing this post, you fucking moron.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

True, but I still think that if you want something bad enough, you'll do something about it, especially if you have other mouths to feed. No offense to anyone on here, but I'll bet there are some people who are unemployed (in general) and are complaining about not being able to find a job, blaming it on the economy, but yet are on facebook chatting with friends, rather than looking for a job.

See, now both of us can call names. I stand by what I said, reading is FUNDAMENTAL. I responded to YOUR POST, then added my own thoughts based on what had been posted previously, by other posters.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by agzg

I was referencing this post, you fucking moron.



See, now both of us can call names. I stand by what I said, reading is FUNDAMENTAL. I responded to YOUR POST, then added my own thoughts based on what had been posted previously, by other posters.

Then you should have referenced her post instead of mine in the first place you under-employed piece of shit.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Then you should have referenced her post instead of mine in the first place you under-employed piece of shit.

LOL, you're not even worth the time.

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

What's the matter, hit too close to home?

People who cannot make solid arguments, and proceed to contradict themselves in the same paragraph live nowhere close to my home.

Furthermore, anyone who went to a top tier university would know that theory and critical thinking are emphasized over practical job-related skills at the undergraduate level (with the exception of a handful of majors such as accounting). I am sorry that you were not aware of this, but I'm not surprised.