Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

That's freaking ridiculous. RIDICULOUS! You leave someone else in your signature for weeks and weeks and weeks, but when it's me, I only get a DAY! WHAT TO THE FUCK!

LOL. He honored your request. Knight_shadow is a GC signature whore.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

You a gump!

LOL

See why your ass can't leave the corner?? LOL

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. He honored your request. Knight_shadow is a GC signature whore.

I'm still waiting on my GC Award for "Best Original Signature by a Supporting Poster"

Got bills to pay, ya know?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Got bills to pay, ya know?

Kevin and the rest of his minions would be proud.

[als463]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Kevin and the rest of his minions would be proud.

See, once again you go to name-calling. One minute you stand behind people who are complaining that they can't find jobs, giving the impression that you would be happy for those who would find employment, then you feel the need to tell me that what I have done is not that big of a deal, once I've proved that not everyone is going through this whole economic mess.

Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you have to call them names. Do you have a job? If so, why don't you find jobs for other people on this board? I don't even understand why people were freaking out on Kevin asking him to hire people (that he most likely never met-nor has any idea what kind of work ethic they have) just because he is gainfully employed.

Good for Kevin for being employed. Good for anyone who has a career or is in school working towards a career. Shame on anyone who is trying to put those people down and call them names because they disagree with what they have said.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by als463

See, once again you go to name-calling. One minute you stand behind people who are complaining that they can't find jobs, giving the impression that you would be happy for those who would find employment, then you feel the need to tell me that what I have done is not that big of a deal, once I've proved that not everyone is going through this whole economic mess.

Good for you that you were able to find a job each consecutive year....but you haven't proved anything except that you and Kevin are asshats when it comes to this topic.

You were able to find a job, good for you. Not everyone can, but you clearly can't grasp that concept. By saying that people should go out and send out XX applications/resumes, or say they should join the military, etc is PROVING (so maybe you did prove something) that you can't grasp that concept.

So just leave it at that. No one is calling you any names, no one is doing anything except disagreeing with you.

[als463]

Originally Posted by epchick

Good for you that you were able to find a job each consecutive year....but you haven't proved anything except that you and Kevin are asshats when it comes to this topic.

You were able to find a job, good for you. Not everyone can, but you clearly can't grasp that concept. By saying that people should go out and send out XX applications/resumes, or say they should join the military, etc is PROVING (so maybe you did prove something) that you can't grasp that concept.

So just leave it at that. No one is calling you any names, no one is doing anything except disagreeing with you.

You just called me an asshat and Dr.Phil called people who agree with Kevin minions. I don't see why it makes me an asshat because I've offered ways people can find jobs, since they are saying they are having a hard time. Earlier, people were making rude remarks to Kevin because he commented that people should try harder (or whatever he said) to get a job.

If you are given the option to join the military, send out x amount of resumes, do a job you are "over-qualified" for, or do something you don't exactly "love" or feel "passionate" about and you turn it down, then I agree with the article that SOME people (not all) are unemployed because they want to be-not in the sense that people wake up and say, "Wow, I love being unemployed," but in the sense that they have been given options, yet chose to ignore them. There are jobs out there. Some people just don't want to "lower" themselves to do them.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by als463

There are jobs out there. Some people just don't want to "lower" themselves to do them.

Yep. I agree. As I was driving home today, I drove past Burger King and there was a "Now Hiring" sign out in front. I mean, I know it's flipping burgers for pennies, but at least it's a temporary job until you get something else.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by als463

If you are given the option to join the military, send out x amount of resumes, do a job you are "over-qualified" for, or do something you don't exactly "love" or feel "passionate" about and you turn it down, then I agree with the article that SOME people (not all) are unemployed because they want to be-not in the sense that people wake up and say, "Wow, I love being unemployed," but in the sense that they have been given options, yet chose to ignore them. There are jobs out there. Some people just don't want to "lower" themselves to do them.

Wow. First off, not everybody has the option to join the military, even if it is something they want to do or would be fit for.

Some people send out literally hundreds of resumes per week yet get no offers.

It's not people not being willing to do a job they are "over-qualified" for, it's them not getting those jobs in the first place. That was mentioned many times.

And nobody ever said that they have turned down jobs they don't like or aren't passionate about. It was some of us complaining about people searching for really responsible jobs that they don't care about because there is a perceived availability for them. That kind of attitude is why there are so many shitty social workers out there. They don't really care, they are just doing it for a pay check. They would do only the bare minimum or sometimes even then. Same with teaching. Those jobs should only have somebody who truely cares about it.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by als463

You just called me an asshat and Dr.Phil called people who agree with Kevin minions. I don't see why it makes me an asshat because I've offered ways people can find jobs, since they are saying they are having a hard time. Earlier, people were making rude remarks to Kevin because he commented that people should try harder (or whatever he said) to get a job.

If you are given the option to join the military, send out x amount of resumes, do a job you are "over-qualified" for, or do something you don't exactly "love" or feel "passionate" about and you turn it down, then I agree with the article that SOME people (not all) are unemployed because they want to be-not in the sense that people wake up and say, "Wow, I love being unemployed," but in the sense that they have been given options, yet chose to ignore them. There are jobs out there. Some people just don't want to "lower" themselves to do them.

Ummm do you even know what 'minions' mean? Just wondering. Ok so I retract my statement, i'm the only one who called you a name.

So because I refuse to join the military, I'm this lazy bum right? Because GOD FORBID we should actually have people in the military who actually want to serve our country and are proud of it.

Clearly you don't read when people say that they can't even get a "lower" job. I couldn't even get a job at my old retail job because I was 'over qualified.' Yeah I could omit my bachelors degree, but why lie? I was 'over qualified' at Subway also.

I didn't chose to ignore being unemployed, but I also can't control whether I got an interview or not. Just because there are "available" jobs doesn't mean that any Tom, Dick or Harry that really wants to get it, can get it.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Yep. I agree. As I was driving home today, I drove past Burger King and there was a "Now Hiring" sign out in front. I mean, I know it's flipping burgers for pennies, but at least it's a temporary job until you get something else.

Why so then you could make fun of them like you do the people from "Taco Hell," "Scrubway" and claim they don't have ambition in life?

[libramunoz]

Originally Posted by als463

If you are given the option to join the military, send out x amount of resumes, do a job you are "over-qualified" for, or do something you don't exactly "love" or feel "passionate" about and you turn it down, then I agree with the article that SOME people (not all) are unemployed because they want to be-not in the sense that people wake up and say, "Wow, I love being unemployed," but in the sense that they have been given options, yet chose to ignore them. There are jobs out there. Some people just don't want to "lower" themselves to do them.

Aaawwww sweetie, it ain't that I don't want to "lower" myself to do these magical jobs, it's just that these "lower" jobs aren't allowing me to come in the door to them!

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

See, once again you go to name-calling. One minute you stand behind people who are complaining that they can't find jobs, giving the impression that you would be happy for those who would find employment, then you feel the need to tell me that what I have done is not that big of a deal, once I've proved that not everyone is going through this whole economic mess.

Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you have to call them names. Do you have a job? If so, why don't you find jobs for other people on this board? I don't even understand why people were freaking out on Kevin asking him to hire people (that he most likely never met-nor has any idea what kind of work ethic they have) just because he is gainfully employed.

Good for Kevin for being employed. Good for anyone who has a career or is in school working towards a career. Shame on anyone who is trying to put those people down and call them names because they disagree with what they have said.

Check the siggy, beeeeeeeeyotch!

[als463]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Check the siggy, beeeeeeeeyotch!

Great comeback. That just proves my point. When you realize that I'm right about the fact you try to find things to tear me down about, but then realize you can't because I don't really care what you think about my employment situation, you go straight to name calling. Are you employed? What is it that you do? Maybe instead of "name-calling" if you are employed, you could do like me and attempt to give solutions instead of trying to start problems.

For the poster who brought "race" into this debate, I'm sorry, but I don't recall Kevin saying anything about race in this thread. Someone else brought up that he didn't agree with the whole outcome of the Jena 6 (or something along those lines). Guess what, I didn't either-but not because of the color of their skin. Does that mean I don't care about minorities? Does that mean I believe those who are unemployed are unemployed because they are lazy blacks?

Please leave this discussion to what it is really about: employment and NOT race. As far as people not joining the military, I said if you are "able-bodied" not for people who clearly can't do it. I get that not everyone can do it. I'm not saying that you should do it, epchick, but you (as far as I know) are not trying to find ways to feed your children. Yes, there are people in the teaching field, nursing field, social worker field, etc. who are there for the paycheck, not because they care. It is a harsh reality, but guess what-that is in EVERY field. Some people start doing those jobs as a paycheck, only to find that it is their passion and something they are really good at.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

Great comeback. That just proves my point.

And you probably think that's a coincidence.

This discussion is about ALL of the CORRELATES of unemployment. I am shocked and appalled that you self-proclaimed intelligent and well-educated adults think that you can isolate employment status from the complexities of the social world.

[xp2k]

Originally Posted by als463

For the poster who brought "race" into this debate, I'm sorry, but I don't recall Kevin saying anything about race in this thread.

Well, for starters, its probably because you've already shown a lack of ability to process simple logic.

Its not what people say, its what they mean.

Originally Posted by als463

Please leave this discussion to what it is really about: employment and NOT race.

Its not about employment, its about people being vilified about a situation they have little to no control over because "better" people see them as being self-entitled.

See and I didnt call anyone names.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. He honored your request. Knight_shadow is a GC signature whore.

If I were him I would do it, too.

Must post more WNY/WPA colloquialisms.