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Old 02-10-2010, 10:08 AM
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Plus it ignores the fact that many conservatives aren't "against immigration," but instead are against illegal immigration. There's a HUGE difference.

(Note: my comment should not be read as any support for Ann Coulter)
There is a HUGE difference but most liberal and conservative rhetoric is perceivably based on an "all or nothing" stance.

conservatives: "Keep them out of this country! Taking jobs and making me feel like I live in Guatemala now!"

liberals: "They need a chance to live the American dream, too! In fact, let's grant clearance for Haitian immigrants, even those who were here illegally!"
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:15 AM
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:16 AM
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Plus it ignores the fact that many conservatives aren't "against immigration," but instead are against illegal immigration. There's a HUGE difference.
But c'mon, if we don't ignore that distinction, it becomes so much harder to paint conservatives as unAmerican Neanderthals ready to close the door on all of Emma Lazarus's huddled masses. You know that.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:19 AM
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But c'mon, if we don't ignore that distinction, it becomes so much harder to paint conservatives as unAmerican Neanderthals ready to close the door on all of Emma Lazarus's huddled masses. You know that.
Liberals and conservatives are to blame for how they are portrayed.

They need to stop letting the loonies get most of their platforms.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:26 AM
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:40 AM
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Personally, I'd rather live next door to a gay couple than a registered sex offender, or a paroled convicted murderer.
What if the gay couple is composed of a registered sex offender and a paroled convicted murderer?

And by the way, that Playboy cover was photoshopped, in case you were too dumb to realize it.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:42 AM
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I really hope the OP was smart enough to know that it was photoshopped.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:43 AM
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I really hope the OP was smart enough to know that it was photoshopped.
Based on the rest of its posts, I'm kinda thinking not.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:43 AM
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Liberals and conservatives are to blame for how they are portrayed.

They need to stop letting the loonies get most of their platforms.
Those folks are more fun to watch on the screaming talking head shows though.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:04 AM
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Those folks are more fun to watch on the screaming talking head shows though.
Much more fun.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:06 AM
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Until people start believing the message and liberals and conservatives are wondering why they are being misunderstood.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:31 AM
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Until people start believing the message and liberals and conservatives are wondering why they are being misunderstood.
Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I think most intelligent people are smart enough to realize that the Olbermann's and Limbaugh's of the world don't represent the majority of the respective political bases.

The misunderstanding comes from people who are on the far ends of the political aisle, i.e. the ones who really don't want to think about the shades of gray in ideology.
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:45 PM
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In all honesty, I don't even think most of the extremists believe what they spout off. It's difficult to imagine that intelligent people (and there is no doubt these are intelligent people) can be so one minded. They do it solely to make money. I mean, sure they have leanings to the right or left, but they spout off the extreme stuff to be famous and make money. And, it works. I think of them as entertainers, not as valid purveyors of information. Do you really think Ann Coulter and James Carville could be married to each other if they were as extreme as they portray themselves?

The scary thing is, some people do think they are valid purveyors of information.
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:50 PM
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In all honesty, I don't even think most of the extremists believe what they spout off. It's difficult to imagine that intelligent people (and there is no doubt these are intelligent people) can be so one minded. They do it solely to make money. I mean, sure they have leanings to the right or left, but they spout off the extreme stuff to be famous and make money. And, it works. I think of them as entertainers, not as valid purveyors of information. Do you really think Ann Coulter and James Carville could be married to each other if they were as extreme as they portray themselves?

The scary thing is, some people do think they are valid purveyors of information.
I wouldn't compare Carville to Coulter. I mean, Carville has that "campaign spokesperson" thing, but he's more well reasoned than Coulter and not as confrontational.

Also, Carville's married to Mary Matalin, not Coulter.
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:51 PM
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Also, Carville's married to Mary Matalin, not Coulter.
Oh thank God. I thought she was single and/or divorced?
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