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Old 02-10-2010, 12:18 AM
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Here's my rant:
America is a country that was built on IMMIGRATION. We are all immigrants, whether the anti-immigration people like it or not. Unless you are Native American, SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY CAME HERE ON A BOAT FROM SOMEWHERE. (VOLUNTARILY, OR INVOLUNTARILY)

This is a common cliche` (yes, it has become a cliche`) of the past 10 years as a liberal response to conservatives.

However, it's a really silly cliche'. (Also, how did the Native Americans get here? hmmmmmmmmmmm....)

We can claim any idea/concept or law as faulty and unnecessary if we reach back to before the idea or law existed. ["What do you mean my daughter can't have a job at the age of 10?! Do you know how solid America was before child labor laws?! Your great grandmothers probably had jobs!!! Other countries don't shelter kids like we do!!! This is why kids are such lazy bastards in America!"]

America and Americans don't have to accept everything and everyone with no legal and normative restrictions. Legal and normative restrictions exist in every society.
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:38 AM
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More true than cliche

Ann Coulter is an idiot. America was built on immigration. The face of America is everchanging. She can't keep up and doesn't even try.

Yeah, the Native Americans migrated here via the bering straight. Anyone who passed fifth grade knows that. It was called into speculation in recent years because anti-immigration Americans (who are mostly caucasian) want to make America appear more like their own creation.

However, we need all the Ann Coulters, Sarah Palins, Glenn Becks, and Michelle Bachmans, at least for entertainment purposes.
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:52 AM
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Yeah, the Native Americans migrated here via the bering straight. Anyone who passed fifth grade knows that.
And those that made it into 6th grade know that it's the Bering Strait.

Now go away, heffa.
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:01 AM
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:37 AM
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:37 AM
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And those that made it into 6th grade know that it's the Bering Strait.

Now go away, heffa.
that is my fave word.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:02 AM
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This is a common cliche` (yes, it has become a cliche`) of the past 10 years as a liberal response to conservatives.

Plus it ignores the fact that many conservatives aren't "against immigration," but instead are against illegal immigration. There's a HUGE difference.

(Note: my comment should not be read as any support for Ann Coulter)
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:08 AM
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Plus it ignores the fact that many conservatives aren't "against immigration," but instead are against illegal immigration. There's a HUGE difference.

(Note: my comment should not be read as any support for Ann Coulter)
There is a HUGE difference but most liberal and conservative rhetoric is perceivably based on an "all or nothing" stance.

conservatives: "Keep them out of this country! Taking jobs and making me feel like I live in Guatemala now!"

liberals: "They need a chance to live the American dream, too! In fact, let's grant clearance for Haitian immigrants, even those who were here illegally!"
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:16 AM
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Plus it ignores the fact that many conservatives aren't "against immigration," but instead are against illegal immigration. There's a HUGE difference.
But c'mon, if we don't ignore that distinction, it becomes so much harder to paint conservatives as unAmerican Neanderthals ready to close the door on all of Emma Lazarus's huddled masses. You know that.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:19 AM
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But c'mon, if we don't ignore that distinction, it becomes so much harder to paint conservatives as unAmerican Neanderthals ready to close the door on all of Emma Lazarus's huddled masses. You know that.
Liberals and conservatives are to blame for how they are portrayed.

They need to stop letting the loonies get most of their platforms.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:43 AM
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Liberals and conservatives are to blame for how they are portrayed.

They need to stop letting the loonies get most of their platforms.
Those folks are more fun to watch on the screaming talking head shows though.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:04 AM
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Those folks are more fun to watch on the screaming talking head shows though.
Much more fun.
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