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Old 01-30-2010, 12:55 AM
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So . . . you don't believe he was passed out because . . . he was drunk? Because he's rich and stupid? Or any other of a variety of factors that probably point more toward that conclusion?

Think about this from the angle of how we found out about this bit of information. Seriously. Think about it, then concentrate. It carries much more credibility than most of us are assigning.

Also, if you've seen the photos of the one that's not the Kappa Sigma, I mean . . . it does not exactly look like a coordinated effort. This smacks of people forming a hypothesis than freezing on it, even in light of additional information.
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:15 AM
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So . . . you don't believe he was passed out because . . . he was drunk? Because he's rich and stupid? Or any other of a variety of factors that probably point more toward that conclusion?

Think about this from the angle of how we found out about this bit of information. Seriously. Think about it, then concentrate. It carries much more credibility than most of us are assigning.

Also, if you've seen the photos of the one that's not the Kappa Sigma, I mean . . . it does not exactly look like a coordinated effort. This smacks of people forming a hypothesis than freezing on it, even in light of additional information.
Maybe I'm high on life, but this post made absolutely no sense to me. LOL

As for the passed out thing, I don't doubt he passed out just as quite a few people probably passed out in that binge drinking collegiate setting.

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Old 01-30-2010, 11:40 AM
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He withdrew his consent? Seriously?! Cause you were there and all? Do you have some super psychic power the rest of us don't know about?

Works both ways.
If he became unconscious, then he no longer has ability to consent so it's basically = withdrawing consent. The question is whether he really did become unconscious.

My personal question is who has "Chance" for a nickname.
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:12 PM
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If he became unconscious, then he no longer has ability to consent so it's basically = withdrawing consent. The question is whether he really did become unconscious.
I know

I don't believe he was unconscious.

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Old 01-30-2010, 12:33 PM
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"Carter said that since local television station WFAA aired a report about the incident Tuesday, he felt alienated both from his fraternity brothers and the university community. He said Wednesday that he did not want to continue his affiliation with the fraternity and that he is uncertain whether he will remain at the university.
Carter said that while he believes he was partially responsible for the incident, he does not believe he should be punished."

So he made a dumbass decision when drunk, his fraternity brothers could face legal consequences because of it (with the push coming from his dad/family) and he feels punished because his brothers are alienating him? C'mon son, GTFOHWTBS!

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Old 01-30-2010, 12:38 PM
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[INDENT][I]"Carter said that since local television station WFAA aired a report about the incident Tuesday, he felt alienated both from his fraternity brothers and the university community. He said Wednesday that he did not want to continue his affiliation with the fraternity and that he is uncertain whether he will remain at the university.
Carter said that while he believes he was partially responsible for the incident, he does not believe he should be punished."



So he made a dumbass decision when drunk, his fraternity brothers could face legal consequences because of it (with the push coming from his dad/family) and he feels punished because his brothers are alienating him? C'mon son, GTFOHWTBS!
what does GTFOHWTBS means? Get the F Over How whiny tasty bacon strips?
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:39 PM
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what does GTFOHWTBS means? Get the F Over How whiny tasty bacon strips?
Get the f outta here with that bullshit

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Old 01-30-2010, 04:06 PM
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I know

I don't believe he was unconscious.
I don't believe he was passed out during the branding but he could've passed out soon after--binge drinking and all. Then again, that's what an investigation is for.

What was that story with the young lady a year or so ago who claimed she was tattooed(sp) against her will? Isn't that what she claimed?
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Old 01-31-2010, 04:35 AM
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so, according to the old row boards (whether or not they're correct or this is just rumor I don't know), but the boards say that they branded delta delta delta on his other ass cheek while he was crashed, because there was some other tri-delts with him. Basically he had one brand that he wasn't so opposed to, but the tri-delt one... he wasn't a big fan.

If that's so, it's assault, not hazing.

Whether or not this rumor is true, I don't know.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:49 AM
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so, according to the old row boards (whether or not they're correct or this is just rumor I don't know), but the boards say that they branded delta delta delta on his other ass cheek while he was crashed, because there was some other tri-delts with him. Basically he had one brand that he wasn't so opposed to, but the tri-delt one... he wasn't a big fan.

If that's so, it's assault, not hazing.

Whether or not this rumor is true, I don't know.
Nice...underage binge drinking raises its ugly head again! They'll regret this for some time. Even if criminal charges aren't filed and their chapter doesn't suffer consequences, I bet the people involved will end up having civil suits filed against them. I agree that this is assault, but in the eye of the public, with fraternities, their is no difference between hazing and assault. I just wonder how much they disliked "Chance" to do this to him while he's passed out.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:02 PM
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so, according to the old row boards (whether or not they're correct or this is just rumor I don't know), but the boards say that they branded delta delta delta on his other ass cheek while he was crashed, because there was some other tri-delts with him. Basically he had one brand that he wasn't so opposed to, but the tri-delt one... he wasn't a big fan.

If that's so, it's assault, not hazing.

Whether or not this rumor is true, I don't know.
That sucks big time.

Binge drinking collegiates do yet another dumb thing. If the old row account of it is correct, isn't assault essentially synonymous with hazing in such instances, as far as many are concerned?

Angel, it reads like they were dumb beyond human comprehension. I don't assume they didn't like Chance so much as they were using their brand (they probably were extremely inexperienced in branding) to mark their drunkeness and stupidity. At the same time, I have heard of people getting other organizations' symbols branded on them as a sign of some "bond." It is dumb but not unheard of.

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Old 01-31-2010, 12:19 PM
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Their logic:

"Your name is on our football stadium, so our name should be on your ass"
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Old 01-31-2010, 04:52 PM
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Did you see the video? That does not look like a branding that anyone would agree to. That looks like assault. My first reaction was the same as yours, but you can't expect him to take one in the *ss just because he has a prominent family. Would you say this to a rape victim who consented but said no once it got out of control? This event, by the looks of his wound, got wayyyyyy out of control!
He flinched. Pain will sober you up pretty quickly.
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Old 01-31-2010, 05:40 PM
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cool so it wasn't just me.
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Old 02-19-2010, 10:04 AM
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6874687.html

No charges to be filed in case. Reasons:

#1- Carter is on video willingly agreeing to branding.

#2- He is already an initiated member of his fraternity, so it is not hazing.
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