Fraternity Member Branded TCU

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

How many guys do you know that act macho and pretend they can handle more than they can?

Some of my brothers have asked me to get a brand. I said no.

8 years later, I'm still brand-free.

If he REALLY didn't want one, he didn't have to get one.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Some of my brothers have asked me to get a brand. I said no.

8 years later, I'm still brand-free.

If he REALLY didn't want one, he didn't have to get one.

I agree, I'm not arguing that he wasn't a complete moron to say yes at the onset, but as a feminist who believes that no means no, I really do believe that once you say no, the activity MUST stop. This happens in medicine all the time. I'm doing a procedure and the patient wants me to stop. I have to stop, otherwise, I actually can be charged with assault, as well. We all make mistakes, but if you are doing something to someone, and they want you to quit, it is in your best interest and theirs to stop immediately.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I agree, I'm not arguing that he wasn't a complete moron to say yes at the onset, but as a feminist who believes that no means no, I really do believe that once you say no, the activity MUST stop. This happens in medicine all the time. I'm doing a procedure and the patient wants me to stop. I have to stop, otherwise, I actually can be charged with assault, as well. We all make mistakes, but if you are doing something to someone, and they want you to quit, it is in your best interest and theirs to stop immediately.

I won't argue with you that no means no.

I've seen a lot of people get branded, though, and I've never heard someone say stop while getting one. And until I hear otherwise, I still can't wrap my head around that fact that these guys would do this to a member of the Carter family without his consent.

I'm sure more information is going to come up soon. I'm interested in seeing where this goes.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

....but as a feminist who believes that no means no.....

This is as interesting of an appeal as your mention of rape earlier.

I'm also a feminist who thinks that no means no.

That doesn't mean that "no means no" applies to everything and that victimization is so easily assumed. That's why there are investigations.

ETA: Ch2tf, I'm just going based on the pieces of puzzle that were in the story. Is it a mere coincidence that a fraternity member from an influential family travels with friends, gets drunk, is assaulted, and comes back with a jacked up brand on his ass? Surely his fraternity brothers aren't dumb enough to consciously assault someone from an influential family. Sure, the alcohol could've taken all brain cells away for everyone involved. It's just way too stupid and convenient.