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Old 08-19-2009, 04:55 PM
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It might have been the number of people carrying. Also Obama might have told them not to. I'm these guys were being watched like hawks the entire the President was in the open.
You're right.

I did kind of wonder if maybe Obama did tell them not to. But that really shouldn't have mattered because JFK told the secret service what not to do and we know what happened to him. KWIM? Secret service agents often talk about how sometimes they have to go against what a president wants when security is at issue.
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Old 08-19-2009, 05:25 PM
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You're right.

I did kind of wonder if maybe Obama did tell them not to. But that really shouldn't have mattered because JFK told the secret service what not to do and we know what happened to him. KWIM? Secret service agents often talk about how sometimes they have to go against what a president wants when security is at issue.
Not really no. What happened to President Kennedy was a freak one in a million shot. I'm sure the crowd had USSS personnel under cover prepared to stop them the second they drew their firearms.
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:15 PM
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Not really no. What happened to President Kennedy was a freak one in a million shot. I'm sure the crowd had USSS personnel under cover prepared to stop them the second they drew their firearms.
It wasn't all that freakish. He told them not to put the top up on the car. They complied. He got killed. It doesn't take that long, undercover people or not.
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:23 PM
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It wasn't all that freakish. He told them not to put the top up on the car. They complied. He got killed. It doesn't take that long, undercover people or not.
So you can make the shot that a bunch of professional snipers tried to recreate and fail? The building Oswald fired from was not cleared because it wasn't really a good location to hit a moving target.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:32 PM
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So you can make the shot that a bunch of professional snipers tried to recreate and fail? The building Oswald fired from was not cleared because it wasn't really a good location to hit a moving target.
I don't even concern myself with Oswald and Depository.
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Old 08-20-2009, 03:32 PM
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I don't even concern myself with Oswald and Depository.
I'm was just saying that they couldn't have predicted President Kennedy being shot. With these guys, they are all carrying their guns openly, and I'm sure the second one reach for his, he is going down hard.
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:36 PM
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I'm was just saying that they couldn't have predicted President Kennedy being shot. With these guys, they are all carrying their guns openly, and I'm sure the second one reach for his, he is going down hard.
Actually they could have predicted the possibility of him being shot. Here's why:
1. He was the President.
2. Presidents get threats.
3. He was riding in a car with an open top.
4. They had received information about serious threats aagainst his life. In fact he had been advised not to go there in the first place because of the negative sentiment towards him.

As for the reaction time...
A shoe was thrown at president bush. Two shoes in fact. They certainly didn't react in a timely manner in that instance.

Also, think about it this way, THESE guys may have been only interested in protesting on the gun control issue, but who is to say that someone who REALLY intends to kill Obama won't try to masquerade as though they are protesting gun control and then fire off shots?
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