If Hazing is Wrong, what's a better alternative?

[msl2008]

i'm also curious...i read from a few girls on here that not only were they not hazed, they were showered with gifts and encouragement throughout their pledge process. i would like to ask, why are you so proud of being in your sorority then? what makes it so great that anyone can get in based on superficial characteristics (i've noticed that some have hot girls, some have fat girls, some have smart girls but basically they all resemble the same type of girl for each sorority). and when you have pledge classes of 50, please also tell me how much you can tell me about each person. i'm very curious what type of brotherhood/sisterhood you can have when you spend 8 weeks getting to know 50 people. what are you willing to do for them besides doing fun stuff with them?

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by msl2008

i'm also curious...i read from a few girls on here that not only were they not hazed, they were showered with gifts and encouragement throughout their pledge process. i would like to ask, why are you so proud of being in your sorority then? what makes it so great that anyone can get in based on superficial characteristics (i've noticed that some have hot girls, some have fat girls, some have smart girls but basically they all resemble the same type of girl for each sorority). and when you have pledge classes of 50, please also tell me how much you can tell me about each person. i'm very curious what type of brotherhood/sisterhood you can have when you spend 8 weeks getting to know 50 people. what are you willing to do for them besides doing fun stuff with them?

Pride in your org doesn't come from hazing.

If that's the only reason you're proud to be what you are, then you've missed the point of Greek Life entirely.

Also, hazing doesn't define what I know about my sisters. I didn't have to do push ups and get yelled at to learn about them.

Sisterhood doesn't come from hazing. I'm willing to do alot for my sisters, and none of them ever treated me as less than a human being.

Going by your logic, since I was not hazed, when I broke my nose last week, my sisters were just like "Whatever, we don't care about her because we didn't bond via some incedibly intense hazing. Who cares that she's hurt."

False. These were the women who brought me food when I couldn't stand up because I was hurting so bad. These were the women who came and folded my laundry because I couldn't. They took me to the Dr. when I needed to go.

THAT is what sisterhood is.

According to you, since I wasn't hazed, we can't POSSIBLY have the type of bond that someone would express that type of concern for me. Wrong.

Sisterhood is not defined or cultivated by hazing. The moments when you NEED people in life cultivate sisterhood.

Simple as that.

[PinkPen]

Originally Posted by msl2008

i'm also curious...i read from a few girls on here that not only were they not hazed, they were showered with gifts and encouragement throughout their pledge process. i would like to ask, why are you so proud of being in your sorority then? what makes it so great that anyone can get in based on superficial characteristics (i've noticed that some have hot girls, some have fat girls, some have smart girls but basically they all resemble the same type of girl for each sorority). and when you have pledge classes of 50, please also tell me how much you can tell me about each person. i'm very curious what type of brotherhood/sisterhood you can have when you spend 8 weeks getting to know 50 people. what are you willing to do for them besides doing fun stuff with them?

Wowwwwww.....could it be that earning your letters come AFTER you cross?? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..*insert smiley with lightbulb over head here*......

Like I said in an earlier thread....I'll take an active, community involved working MIP member over a letter rocking mofo ANYDAY!!

I can't believe people WANT to be hazed to feel they are accepted and appreciated.....truly sad.