Depression (the disease, not the economy) - Page 8

libramunoz · #**106** 02-04-2009, 03:23 AM

Monet,
If you have some of the same issues, why didn't you just become willing to say so and move on?
It's like the drunk coming down on another drunk for drinking.
Why allow yourself and this cycle to be so futile?
Girl, just be true to yourself and the rest will follow.

AKA_Monet · #**107** 02-04-2009, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by libramunoz

Actually I don't feel that you pushed me. You just found yourself pushed into a corner and didn't know how to get out of it.
As has been said about me, I'm a fool from the ole school.
That's up to you darlin'

Your words, not mine... I do not see a space I need to get out of... And your answer for moving forward does not help me at all...

AKA_Monet · #**108** 02-04-2009, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by libramunoz

Monet,
If you have some of the same issues, why didn't you just become willing to say so and move on?
It's like the drunk coming down on another drunk for drinking.
Why allow yourself and this cycle to be so futile?
Girl, just be true to yourself and the rest will follow.

Glutton for punishment? IDK? Maybe I did not want to see you suffer the same kind of torture I was put under online and I strongly try to protect those who suffer from mental anguish...

libramunoz · #**109** 02-04-2009, 03:26 AM

Girl, do I need to spell it out?
Let it go and just move on. I don't have a problem in moving on hell I'd like to but don't act like you just can't let it G-O.
But just realize that I didn't see you pushing me either.

AKA_Monet · #**110** 02-04-2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by libramunoz

Girl, do I need to spell it out?
Let it go and just move on. I don't have a problem in moving on hell I'd like to but don't act like you just can't let it G-O.
But just realize that I didn't see you pushing me either.

Can't you see I cannot "let it go" for whatever reason... That's like a giving a coke addict crack and telling them to switch back to coke...

I have lost all dignity here... So, this is a futile effort to explain to me otherwise...

libramunoz · #**111** 02-04-2009, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Glutton for punishment? IDK? Maybe I did not see you suffer the same kind of torture I was put under and I strongly try to protect those who suffer from mental anguish...

Monet, I understand what you are saying, and no one needs to be put through any kind of torture. However, some people are just willing to say what's happened to them in their lives and they're o.k. with it.
Thank you for the concern and but I'm o.k. with it.

libramunoz · #**112** 02-04-2009, 03:32 AM

Shit Monet, get off the crack!

libramunoz · #**113** 02-04-2009, 03:33 AM

You gotta learn when to let shit go!
When people are telling you, in a nice way, LEAVE IT ALONE--quit being that kid that keeps giving the other kid a wet willy!
Then you sit back and wonder why, bam, you got knocked the fuck out!
When folks are telling you STOP, think, STOP typing, and THINK why they are telling you to stop!
It's because they're about to knock the shit fire fuck outta you!

I.A.S.K. · #**114** 02-04-2009, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by libramunoz

Girl, do I need to spell it out?
Let it go and just move on. I don't have a problem in moving on hell I'd like to but don't act like you just can't let it G-O.
But just realize that I didn't see you pushing me either.

Please let this go. Its really extra and unnecessary. It seems that you also have a problem moving on. No disrespect is intended, but all this extraness is grossly counterproductive to the reasons you've given for sharing in this thread in the first place.

AKAMonet, Dr.Phil and Libramunoz thanks for answering my question.

libramunoz · #**115** 02-04-2009, 03:36 AM

Iask, I do understand what you're saying and I am willing to let it go!

AKA_Monet · #**116** 02-04-2009, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by libramunoz

What kind of torture did you need to see from me? What?
Hell, here it is for you, for 6 months, I was depressed as hell. I hated my job, couldn't concentrate from it, couldn't think clearly, and one day, I wanted to kill my damn self!
I was sitting on the bed, thinking about getting out the shotgun, putting in the bullets, and blowing out my Goddamned brain!
Is that what you wanted/needed to see?
Thank YOU JESUS that HE came into my room and made me think about the effect that I would leave. How I would hurt my mother, how I would hurt my grandparents (3 of which were deceased), how I would hurt my siblings.
HE made me see that if we were struggling to keep afloat on the farm that killing myself would make things worse because of the fact that who was about to bury my big ass?
My mother had just lost her father, 16 months before, she'd just lost her oldest sister, and in 2005, she lost her brother. My brother is mentally gone and physically a fool! God made my crazy ASS THINK of the consequences to my just about to be dumb ass actions!
Shit Monet, is this what you wanted to see? Is this the torture that you needed? Goddamn!

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Originally Posted by libramunoz

Shit Monet, get off the crack!

I was not pointing out your torture... I was pointing out my own torture...

Since you chose to post your angst on GC, which is not recommended, I would highly recommend coming to the "Isle" where others, some from GC, can find sanctuary.

PM me if you want a Travel Visa. There is a cost associated due to the security and protect of comments for the best practices badges.

libramunoz · #**117** 02-04-2009, 03:46 AM

Monet, girl, you are cracking me up! Seriously!
I have my own "world" where I sit back, have a Pepsi, and smoke a cigarette. I like it in there, they know me!
Like I said, I misread what you had written and I apologize for misreading, but like you, I too am human.
Monet, we all have flaws, and as a person, you just have to learn to accept your flaws for who you are, good and bad. I've had to learn how to do that in my life. I am the type of person who doesn't care what others say or think about her. Never have and never will.
People think I'm nuts in general. But I know that people also think I'm sweet, kind, and is the one person that if you call at 2am needing a friend to talk to or to come see you, get you, I will be there before you can finish that box of kleenex you're going through.
One of my little cousins (she's 24) and I have a joke going on between us. When she was in college any time she called late at night, I'd automatically ask her, "do you need me to come, is it a guy I need to bring the gun for?, are you pg?" She'd always have to reassure me that it wasn't any of those things to keep me from going to where she was. When she was having recent bf problems, she knew that I was the last one she wanted to call because she knew those same three questions would be asked, and if she said yes to any of them, I'd be up there quick, fast, and in a hurry!

The point is, I'm like that with any of my friends and family, and you if you'd need it! But there are times when we just have to learn how to agree to disagree.

AKA_Monet · #**118** 02-04-2009, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by libramunoz

Monet, girl, you are cracking me up! Seriously!
I have my own "world" where I sit back, have a Pepsi, and smoke a cigarette. I like it in there, they know me!
Like I said, I misread what you had written and I apologize for misreading, but like you, I too am human.
Monet, we all have flaws, and as a person, you just have to learn to accept your flaws for who you are, good and bad. I've had to learn how to do that in my life. I am the type of person who doesn't care what others say or think about her. Never have and never will.
People think I'm nuts in general. But I know that people also think I'm sweet, kind, and is the one person that if you call at 2am needing a friend to talk to or to come see you, get you, I will be there before you can finish that box of kleenex you're going through.
One of my little cousins (she's 24) and I have a joke going on between us. When she was in college any time she called late at night, I'd automatically ask her, "do you need me to come, is it a guy I need to bring the gun for?, are you pg?" She'd always have to reassure me that it wasn't any of those things to keep me from going to where she was. When she was having recent bf problems, she knew that I was the last one she wanted to call because she knew those same three questions would be asked, and if she said yes to any of them, I'd be up there quick, fast, and in a hurry!

The point is, I'm like that with any of my friends and family, and you if you'd need it! But there are times when we just have to learn how to agree to disagree.

You should see our "VENT Area"... We lose our minds there.

But we really have started to find our healing space. We are truly an "Isle in a Torrential Ocean of Cyberspace", a place of refuge, a sanctuary... And there is buffered support with professionally licensed people...

People who do not understand may say things, but the participants are like, "WOW, I am glad I am here!"

Just know, you are not ALONE in your pain...

The passport travel visa reservation open when you are ready...

libramunoz · #**119** 02-04-2009, 04:15 AM

Girl, my mind is fine-the body-that's another thing.

Girl I am a professional in my area that's why I do know and understand about mental health issues/problems.

Child, I'm not in any pain, I'm just fine. I've learned a saying in church that I have to remind myself of many times, take it to the alter and leave it there--don't bring it back to the pew with you!

Like I said, the people in my world know me and I'm o.k. in that pink bubble at times--it keeps me and others safe.

Just know that you are finding yourself going through that box of kleenex, I'm here anytime you'd need. Not as a professional, just as a friend.

HotDamnImAPhiMu · #**120** 02-04-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

So, for the people who are depressed or have been did any of you consider not taking any meds? Did you not take them and then later decide to take them? I've never been depressed so I don't know as much about the feeling and the need for or dislike of meds.

I've been depressed two other times, once in HS and once in college. I didn't take meds either time.

I felt like taking medication would be just numbing myself to my own problems. I didn't want to take a drug that altered the way my brain worked. I didn't want to OFFICIALLY be labeled as "depressed". I felt that if I tried hard enough, I could will myself out of depression.

Therapists will work with you if you choose not to use medication to control your depression. Mine says she has a couple patients like that - they've decided drugs aren't for them (one of them is pregnant, the others have their own reasons) and the therapist is helping them do the best they can with what they've got.

This time, I tried therapy alone before I resorted to antidepressants. It didn't help much. I couldn't fix things by myself. I let my doctor talk me into antidepressants because my depression was taking over my whole life, and nothing I did (therapy, extra exercise, talking with friends) helped.

Depression is a chemical imbalance, and the chemicals in my brain were so out of whack I didn't have a chance at getting better by myself. Kind of like when you take an antibiotic - it kills most of the germs, but in the end, your body has to heal itself. But taking penicillin (or whatever) puts you on a level playing field. I needed help getting to a level playing field so I could fight the depression off by myself.

There's also herbal remedies for depression, which have varying degrees of effectiveness. St. John's Wart is one of them, fish oil capsules are another, but I can't think of any others right now. I tried St. John's Wart before I tried prescription drugs and I didn't think it worked at all - but it must work for somebody. (Sidenote: St. John's Wart makes birth control pills less effective. Just FYI.)

Thanks for asking.