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Old 01-29-2009, 12:22 AM
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A real quick internet search shows that Phi Delt has a waiver on their site to use with a designated driver program where you sign an acknowledgment that all liability and insurance coverage comes from the driver and that the chapter and fraternity disclaim all liability. If you didn't want the program to happen I can't imagine providing that form. And the Sigma Chi risk management foundation/insurance pool website has a document which to me looks like it recommends setting up a designated driver pool for social events and has tips on how to structure it.

The "pledges" answer was a joke, but my advice would be to check with your nationals/insurance pool, because clearly not all are against it. My chapter has a safe driver program and I think it's great because it keeps people from getting DUIs, so I would recommend it at least from my experience, but clearly the answer is check and see first because it's apparently not ok with every group.
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Old 01-29-2009, 02:40 AM
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A real quick internet search shows that Phi Delt has a waiver on their site to use with a designated driver program where you sign an acknowledgment that all liability and insurance coverage comes from the driver and that the chapter and fraternity disclaim all liability. If you didn't want the program to happen I can't imagine providing that form. And the Sigma Chi risk management foundation/insurance pool website has a document which to me looks like it recommends setting up a designated driver pool for social events and has tips on how to structure it.

The "pledges" answer was a joke, but my advice would be to check with your nationals/insurance pool, because clearly not all are against it. My chapter has a safe driver program and I think it's great because it keeps people from getting DUIs, so I would recommend it at least from my experience, but clearly the answer is check and see first because it's apparently not ok with every group.
Soooooo much irony with the Phi Delt form as they don't allow alcohol in their chapter facilities nationally. You should post links to those forms because I am curious.

Question that goes beyond the scope of fraternity life: Why can't people take responsibility for their actions to not get DUIs? In the past I've been so intoxicated I was still legally drunk the next day, and I've never considered any behavior that would result in a DUI for me (or being arrested or cited for anything else, such as, but not limited to: public urination, public nudity, disturbing the peace, etc.). Why is it either a) someone picks you up or b) you drive drunk? What if that person's car breaks down, are there no other options? Are people not planning ahead?
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:33 AM
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You should post links to those forms because I am curious.
http://www.phideltatheta.org/documen...-statement.pdf

http://www.chaptertools.net/site_fil...1202334745.pdf
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:17 PM
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Wow, you can't have booze in your vehicle (no I don't mean open containers, but say a cooler full of beer) if you're using that form and agree to it. Though it does say SAMPLE at the top.

Looking at the Sigma Chi one, could you imagine other liabilities that could stem from following it though? Handing over your keys and they get lost, and you're just a guest? Or even the logistical issues. No body picked me up I got: frostbite, beat up, peed my pants, passed out, chased by a bear, etc. I guess I'm more about promoting responsible consumption at the outset instead of having to do things like this as a result of over indulgence.
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