Rush Limbaugh hopes Obama Fails

[madmax]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Donovan McNabb
Halle Berry
Halfrican American
Barack the Magic Negro
Curious George

To start, those are just a few of the reason why I do not give Rush a pass with that portion of his comment.

ETA: Had it been someone else of more credibility and integrity, then the whole statement would require more 'generous' scrutiny.

Limbaugh was right about Mcnabb.

[AKA_Monet]

Rush Limbaugh is a fat bastard! He's an Oxycontin pain killer abuser that has nothing left but his bloated profanations about anybody who is not him.

And he has a history of publicly saying racially incendiary and insensitive comments. I wonder how shocked he will be when he realizes that "PRESIDENT OBAMA" is his president, too? Probably write a coloring book that sells in the $millions, making more money!

When Rush says "I hope he fails" in the same sentence including President Obama, regardless if it is his policies or not, listeners have heard it and some people can easily have the POV an FCC violation... Why does he wish failure on a POTUS that is only ~2 days old? How would it best serve Rush?

And with any critical analysis of any public figure's comments up for introspection, the question always needs to be asked, "what about the opposite"...

If McLame won and became POTUS, how will it look if some perceived radical Black man on the radio said, "I hope he fails" Yada-yada?

Well SHIT! I hope Rush's radio show fails! I hope Rush's heart fails! I hope many things about Rush fails! But my hopes won't be fulfilled because Rush is an asshole that survives a long miserable ungrateful life anyways...

After all the shit I have suffered with great failures in the past years, I have lost much hope, dare I say faith...

Good to see others on GC hoping well-wishes for this country.

I am sorry, I don't see how hope can survive with the way most people are these days--especially after seeing the hater juice levied against President Obama from White Supremacists, Al Qaeda and "Lone Wolves" on CNN...

[33girl]

OK, I didn't read this thread because I so need a break from anything political, but I found it highly amusing that the "Rush: What Not To Do Or Say" thread is coming up just a few below this one.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 33girl

OK, I didn't read this thread because I so need a break from anything political, but I found it highly amusing that the "Rush: What Not To Do Or Say" thread is coming up just a few below this one.

That is funny. Limbaugh is hardheaded and wouldn't get a bid.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Rush Limbaugh is a fat bastard! He's an Oxycontin pain killer abuser that has nothing left but his bloated profanations about anybody who is not him.

And he has a history of publicly saying racially incendiary and insensitive comments. I wonder how shocked he will be when he realizes that "PRESIDENT OBAMA" is his president, too? Probably write a coloring book that sells in the $millions, making more money!

When Rush says "I hope he fails" in the same sentence including President Obama, regardless if it is his policies or not, listeners have heard it and some people can easily have the POV an FCC violation... Why does he wish failure on a POTUS that is only ~2 days old? How would it best serve Rush?

And with any critical analysis of any public figure's comments up for introspection, the question always needs to be asked, "what about the opposite"...

If McLame won and became POTUS, how will it look if some perceived radical Black man on the radio said, "I hope he fails" Yada-yada?

Well SHIT! I hope Rush's radio show fails! I hope Rush's heart fails! I hope many things about Rush fails! But my hopes won't be fulfilled because Rush is an asshole that survives a long miserable ungrateful life anyways...

After all the shit I have suffered with great failures in the past years, I have lost much hope, dare I say faith...

Good to see others on GC hoping well-wishes for this country.

I am sorry, I don't see how hope can survive with the way most people are these days--especially after seeing the hater juice levied against President Obama from White Supremacists, Al Qaeda and "Lone Wolves" on CNN...

This post just made my day. Soror, I give you two thumbs up and a pinky.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Shortcut? Please?

...and you may want to check but he is one of the FEW high caliber QBs playing right now that gets more done with less to work with unlike uuuhhh...the Colts and Patriots?

Gosh, just imagine if T.O. didn't have such a primadonna persona what Philly could have accomplished.

Now, clip ya wings there Ravens fan! Stop dissin' my Patriots! And you should also lay off my boy T.O.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Now, clip ya wings there Ravens fan! Stop dissin' my Patriots! And you should also lay off my boy T.O.

Slow ya roll dere...let me explain...hehe

That was NOT a diss to the Pats but the Pats have ALWAYS had some players they have turned into stars and at times Brady has made some of those players into stars and vice versa...and last year getting Randy Moss? A steal.

and truly think of how great T.O. could have been if he had his act together there in Philly.


Now...without peeking who are the WRs that have started for Philly since T.O.'s departure?

Any Pro Bowlers in that group?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I don't need to, I read them the first time.

I'm not arguing that you're wrong; I'm saying you took a shortcut to get there that may or may not be evident to others. Sometimes, you have to play Mapquest.

Shortcut? Please?

Limbaugh is a long straight road leading nowhere...no mapquest needed.

Originally Posted by madmax

Limbaugh was right about Mcnabb.

No ...he was not.

They DID go to the Super Bowl in 2004 right?

Meanwhile that SAME year when his comments were made, what happened to Limbaugh?

Fired from ESPN and then not a few weeks afterwards, brought up on drug charges...Oxycontin remember?

...and you may want to check but he is one of the FEW high caliber QBs playing right now that gets more done with less to work with unlike uuuhhh...the Colts and Patriots?

Gosh, just imagine if T.O. didn't have such a primadonna persona what Philly could have accomplished.

Hell, dare I say, McNabb thus far is one of the ONLY reasons why the Eagles are on the map right now. Since he was drafted how many winning seasons has Philly had?

And ummm what about the NUMBER ONE PICK, Tim Couch? Where is he now?
And if memory serves Philly BOOED the decision (like they tend to boo most things) to draft McNabb.

Who was the last big name QB that Philly had before McNabb?

Randall Cunningham.

So, no...I would have to say Limbaugh was and still is very wrong about McNabb and Black QBs in general.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

No ...he was not.

They DID go to the Super Bowl in 2004 right?

Meanwhile that SAME year when his comments were made, what happened to Limbaugh?

Fired from ESPN and then not a few weeks afterwards, brought up on drug charges...Oxycontin remember?

...and you may want to check but he is one of the FEW high caliber QBs playing right now that gets more done with less to work with unlike uuuhhh...the Colts and Patriots?

Gosh, just imagine if T.O. didn't have such a primadonna persona what Philly could have accomplished.

Hell, dare I say, McNabb thus far is one of the ONLY reasons why the Eagles are on the map right now. Since he was drafted how many winning seasons has Philly had?

And ummm what about the NUMBER ONE PICK, Tim Couch? Where is he now?
And if memory serves Philly BOOED the decision (like they tend to boo most things) to draft McNabb.

Who was the last big name QB that Philly had before McNabb?

Randall Cunningham.

So, no...I would have to say Limbaugh was and still is very wrong about McNabb and Black QBs in general.

Actually, you're kind of wrong in most of your analysis here, and none of it has anything to do with Limbaugh's statements (not to derail with football talk while the wounds are open).

Think about this: why do advanced metrics always have the Philly offense as better "on paper" than they are on the score sheet? Why do they have a disproportionate amount of their yards happen between the 20s?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Actually, you're kind of wrong in most of your analysis here, and none of it has anything to do with Limbaugh's statements (not to derail with football talk while the wounds are open).

Think about this: why do advanced metrics always have the Philly offense as better "on paper" than they are on the score sheet? Why do they have a disproportionate amount of their yards happen between the 20s?

I'm not even gonna pretend that I know Philly football so I have to take you at your word.


Just in comparison and a very general one at that, from an outsider looking in...I still think that Donovan has had just as much success with what bits and peices he's had on offense (Westbrook whenever healthy plus whoever is the guest WR that year) than whatever Manning and Brady has had (at least up to this season...)


Something to consider...suppose McNabb won the Super Bowl ...how would he and Manning compare?

Just general stuff I'm throwing out there nothing to be considered gospel

So, educate me on your team, please.

** go for the hijack **

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I'm not even gonna pretend that I know Philly football so I have to take you at your word.


Just in comparison and a very general one at that, from an outsider looking in...I still think that Donovan has had just as much success with what bits and peices he's had on offense (Westbrook whenever healthy plus whoever is the guest WR that year) than whatever Manning and Brady has had (at least up to this season...)


Something to consider...suppose McNabb won the Super Bowl ...how would he and Manning compare?

Just general stuff I'm throwing out there nothing to be considered gospel

So, educate me on your team, please.

** go for the hijack **

The advanced metrics show that Manning is much more accurate than McNabb; McNabb does some things really well as a quarterback, but his accuracy is not one of his stronger suits. That's not just because of lack of receiving talent...there are ways to measure it independent of who the receivers are on the field.

You could make the argument Westbrook is one of the top 5-10 offensive players in the NFL...so as far as pieces go, he's a pretty good one to have. Plus, TO played well when he was in Philly, when looking purely at numbers (although I'm not sure if he had as many drops as he has with the Cowboys).

I'm not a Philly fan, so I'll leave the specifics up to KSigRC...I'm just going off of what I've seen on TV, and read on sites like Football Outsiders.

ETA: Madmax is anti-McNabb, though, so you'll probably hear about it from him. Plus, you mentioned something about Philly fans booing, so he'll probably jump in on that too.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

The advanced metrics show that Manning is much more accurate than McNabb; McNabb does some things really well as a quarterback, but his accuracy is not one of his stronger suits. That's not just because of lack of receiving talent...there are ways to measure it independent of who the receivers are on the field.

Oh, yeah now that first part I DO agree with whole heartedly...but I still wonder if he had a long tenured WR the caliber of Moss or TO, how much better he would be.

Because yes, to SOME degree a WR makes the QB and so on.

But when Rush said what he said about Black QBs in general he spat on all the accomplishments that Moon, Cunningham, Williams, and McNair had already made in changing the game.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

The advanced metrics show that Manning is much more accurate than McNabb; McNabb does some things really well as a quarterback, but his accuracy is not one of his stronger suits. That's not just because of lack of receiving talent...there are ways to measure it independent of who the receivers are on the field.

You could make the argument Westbrook is one of the top 5-10 offensive players in the NFL...so as far as pieces go, he's a pretty good one to have. Plus, TO played well when he was in Philly, when looking purely at numbers (although I'm not sure if he had as many drops as he has with the Cowboys).

I'm not a Philly fan, so I'll leave the specifics up to KSigRC...I'm just going off of what I've seen on TV, and read on sites like Football Outsiders.

ETA: Madmax is anti-McNabb, though, so you'll probably hear about it from him. Plus, you mentioned something about Philly fans booing, so he'll probably jump in on that too.

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Woah, you may want to re-read my statement, because I was saying that Philly's reputation isn't deserved. Again, I said that "I don't think the reality is nearly as bad as the reputation." Thus, I said I don't really believe the reputation (which is the perception outside of Philly); I just think their fans are no worse than fans in New York or Boston or other cities that are crazy about sports.

People say the same thing about Boston (Fenway in particular) and NY (Yankee Stadium in particular) without having ever been there or having been to a game. I've seen Yankees fans treated well in Fenway, and Sox fans treated well in Yankee Stadium.
.......

The booing at the draft was so blown out of proportion. A total of 30 fans took a bus to NY for the draft. It was a trip sponsored by 610 wip radio and they all wanted the team to draft Ricky Williams. If you listen to the morons on ESPN they make it out as though there were 60,000 fans booing.

[PhiGam]

McNabb is good but Manning is one of the all time greats. As a die hard Dan Marino fan I will say that Peyton is the ONLY player that I will put on the same level as Marino in terms of passing ability.
The Eagles offense is only good when Brian Westbrook plays, he may be the best RB in the league right now.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Shortcut? Please?

Limbaugh is a long straight road leading nowhere...no mapquest needed.




No ...he was not.

They DID go to the Super Bowl in 2004 right?

Meanwhile that SAME year when his comments were made, what happened to Limbaugh?

Fired from ESPN and then not a few weeks afterwards, brought up on drug charges...Oxycontin remember?

...and you may want to check but he is one of the FEW high caliber QBs playing right now that gets more done with less to work with unlike uuuhhh...the Colts and Patriots?

Gosh, just imagine if T.O. didn't have such a primadonna persona what Philly could have accomplished.

Hell, dare I say, McNabb thus far is one of the ONLY reasons why the Eagles are on the map right now. Since he was drafted how many winning seasons has Philly had?

And ummm what about the NUMBER ONE PICK, Tim Couch? Where is he now?
And if memory serves Philly BOOED the decision (like they tend to boo most things) to draft McNabb.

Who was the last big name QB that Philly had before McNabb?

Randall Cunningham.

So, no...I would have to say Limbaugh was and still is very wrong about McNabb and Black QBs in general.

Your points are weak. Are you going to offer something that actually disputes Limbaugh's opinion on McNabb? I could just as easily point out Kordell Stewart, Akili Smith and all the black QBs that suck. That would probably be as stupid as all of your points.

McNabb is overrated!! Try watching a game. It is obvious that you get your info from Sports Center and you don't really watch the Eagles.

I will fill you in since you are clueless. The Eagles win with DEFENSE and special teams and Brian Westbrook.

McNabb can't shine Peyton Manning or Tom Brady's shoes. They are winners and leaders. McNabb is a punk ass momma's boy that had to get is brother to call TO and ask TO to stop picking on little Donovan.

AJ Feeley who sucks actually has a better winning percentage than Donovan. Jeff Garcia has a better winning percentage as an Eagle than Donovan.

Jerry Mondesire the head of the Philly chapter of the NAACP also rips Donovan. He doesn't rip him because he is black he just knows more about football than DamonSeid. Pro Boxer Bernard Hopkins rips McNabb every chance he gets.