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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam
FWIW, there were two POSTS. Obviously I replied to one of them. In fact, when I quoted your first post, your second post had not come through. Chew that.
I question your logic. There is not as much connotation or power behind "snowflake" as there is behind racial slurs against minorities. Maybe, MAYBE words like "cracker" or "whitie," but certainly not frosted flakes, barbie, or what have you.
When white people are oppressed by a majority, then they can say that. Personally, gender-specific slurs are more offensive to me. If someone wants to call me a cracker, let them. I'm much more offended if someone calls me the c-word.
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Cut it out with the hazing crap. This is not hazing. Those posters that have called you out on general douchebaggery are not in concordance with one another. We're not trying to "make your life miserable."
If you didn't start a flamewar everywhere you post when someone questions what you post as your opinion, you will notice that in general, we do "play nice."
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I wasn't the one who originally posted the comment on the "Bring it On" sequel.
No, "snowflake" is not exactly loaded, but the poster's point was that even had the word "honky" or "cracker" been used it would've been accepted because it is acceptable to use racial slurs against white people. I agree that it would've caused little uproar for two reasons: first because "white people" who are educated are often so PC that they are afraid to react to that sort of behavior. I am not ignorant of the difference in situations, I have just said, and stand by this, that it shouldn't be ok as it does upset people. If someone calls me a cracker they are calling me a racist pig, essentially, and I absolutely find that offensive. What I feel is that I should not have to simply accept that because I am white. I think it is ok to be offended and to say so. The second reason it often causes no uproar is that some "white people" just aren't offended. This is of course a reasonable reaction as well. It just depends on the person. I guess what bothers me most about the issue is that it's somehow ok because it's "getting even". The concept of "sins of the father" isn't one I personally believe in. That just creates a never ending circle where a victim becomes a perpetrator and vice versa, each trying to top the other to "get even".
I question the logic that because "white people haven't been oppressed" they have no right to be offended. See the above paragraph. By that logic eventually the tables could be turned. Some people think "fair is fair" but two wrongs don't make a right in my mind. Getting even never ends.
Fine if you aren't offended by racial slurs, I am and remain so. As for gender issues, that is of course an entirely different topic, but how about this: In society now it's often seen as acceptable to use gender-related slurs and debasing jokes against men because for most of modern history men have been in charge. So somehow turning the tables seems ok. It's more of the "getting even" attitude. Does that make it ok? Yes, women have been oppressed by men historically, but does that mean that my boyfriend is a pig, even though he's respectful of women?
The rationalization for being completely rude to me in the first place is because I'm "new". Here's what I am NOT going to let happen: no one gets to be a bitch then turn it around on me and expect me to lie down and take it. It isn't going to work that way. The logic that someone who calls names and can't let it go is applauded for telling me I'm behaving in a juvenile manner is both amusing and irritating. Both of us were behaving like juveniles-it's the inability to accept that on the part of the other party that kept it going. There's a solution if you don't like it: don't engage. People who are rude can expect it back from me, and if they don't want to deal with it they can avoid it by either being civil or not speaking to me at all.
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