Study: You may be more racist than you think

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

People who have experienced racism are knowledgeable on the topic, too, even if they haven't read books on the topic.

This phrase is either overused or underused with little middle ground. A lot of people who think they have "experienced racism" actually have not. A lot of people who think that they have not "experienced racism" actually have.

Suffice it to say that having "experiences" means that someone has had experiences. It does not instantly make someone knowledgeable beyond being able to share their experience. They are experienced in the literal sense but that isn't enough to participate in every discussion of racial and ethnic relations.

[LΩVE]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This phrase is either overused or underused with little middle ground. A lot of people who think they have "experienced racism" actually have not. A lot of people who think that they have not "experienced racism" actually have.

Suffice it to say that having "experiences" means that someone has had experiences. It does not instantly make someone knowledgeable beyond being able to share their experience. They are experienced in the literal sense but that isn't enough to participate in every discussion of racial and ethnic relations.

I disagree with the logic that people who read about experiences are more valuable than people who have been in those situations. They are valuable in different ways.

If these discussions should be limited to only those who spend extensive amounts of time researching the topic, then maybe it should never ever be broached here.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

I disagree with the logic that people who read about experiences are more valuable than people who have been in those situations. They are valuable in different ways.

I am not talking about people who only "read about experiences." Your assumptions of what it means to have an expertise are guiding your replies.

Originally Posted by LΩVE

If these discussions should be limited to only those who spend extensive amounts of time researching the topic, then maybe it should never ever be broached here.

This is GC, anyone can participate and that's what everyone's doing. KSig RC and I are making a general point that you keep wanting to only apply to GC.

On that note, this "opinion discussion" is boring as hell. What's worse than opinions-and-assholes is people who want to type long posts about their right to express their opinion.

[LΩVE]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I am not talking about people who only "read about experiences." Your assumptions of what it means to have an expertise are guiding your replies.



This is GC, anyone can participate and that's what everyone's doing. KSig RC and I are making a general point that you keep wanting to only apply to GC.

On that note, this "opinion discussion" is boring as hell. What's worse than opinions-and-assholes is people who want to type long posts about their right to express their opinion.

Then should you explain what you mean by expertise? I do not believe these posts have been general. Yours maybe, but others were not.

The scamper off.

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

In case you didn't see it yet:

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...85#post1765485

I did not, but I bow to your so very adulty behavior you have demonstrated over the last day.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

Then should you explain what you mean by expertise?

Should I? No.

Will I? In my own way.

As KSig RC stated, you pick up on the less substantive points and nitpick to create a strawman argument for yourself. Now you've become sidetracked by "layperson," "experience," and "expertise."

Personal experience is not the end-all and be-all for most things. Would you go to a doctor whose only knowledge of, and experience with, sickness is that she had a cold or was diagnosed with cancer before? Doctors not only have personal experiences but they have worked with others who have personal experiences. This hands-on knowledge is matched with reading and research that allow them to engage on theoretical and substantive levels with other doctors and reach out to laypersons.

The End. Seriously.

[LΩVE]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Should I? No.

Will I? In my own way.

As KSig RC stated, you pick up on the less substantive points and nitpick to create a strawman argument for yourself. Now you've become sidetracked by "layperson," "experience," and "expertise."

Personal experience is not the end-all and be-all for most things. Would you go to a doctor whose only knowledge of, and experience with, sickness is that she had a cold or was diagnosed with cancer before? Doctors not only have personal experiences but they have worked with others who have personal experiences. This hands-on knowledge is matched with reading and research that allow them to engage on theoretical and substantive levels with other doctors and reach out to laypersons.

The End. Seriously.

I did not say it was the end all. I said it was valid and shouldn't be dismissed.

If it's the end then PLEASE f-o.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

If it's the end then PLEASE f-o.

See, it's hard to cede you any sort of high ground when you finish with "PLEASE fuck off." I get that you don't want to take anyone's shit or whatever - trust me, we get it. But there's a difference between having a spine and telling someone to fuck off, you know?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

As KSig RC stated, you pick up on the less substantive points and nitpick to create a strawman argument for yourself. Now you've become sidetracked by "layperson," "experience," and "expertise."

The End. Seriously.

Yep.