240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

[epchick]

Originally Posted by AlphaDeltaDelta

Attacking with ground troops vs airstrikes... If you send in ground troops, you are putting their lives in major danger... If you send in ground troops, it may take them some time to get there, and by then all these mobile rocket launchers will be gone.

Well, if Israel truly is surrounding Gaza City, I doubt it would take them long to get there.

[DaemonSeid]

Israel vs Palestine = New thread

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Israel vs Palestine = New thread

Because you had a lot more to say about t-shirts?

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by starang21

^^^^^

plummeted the average IQ in this thread into the negatives.

there has been mature adult discussion on this board about race in the past. you just aren't equipped to contribute.

And the only thing you ever contribute to those threads are assinine comments that have no substance.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by epchick

Ok, so I said that Israel shouldn't have so many checkpoints in the land occupied by the Palestinians. I also said that instead of bombing places, they should raid the suspected hideouts/storage areas to see if they are in fact hideouts/storage. I don't see those two comments as "talking [out] of both sides of my mouth."

If Israel thinks that epchick's house in Gaza City is housing weapons, instead of bombing epchick's house (and killing her family, and any civilians in the area cause bombs aren't just nice little things that stay contained in that one little area) why don't they send in troops to snoop around and see if there are actually weapons. If no weapons are found, don't bomb the house, and allow epchick's family to continue to stay there safely.



I can understand that.

But the problem, I think, is that the weapons are typically placed in this type locations deliberately.

Here's an old story from 2007 about outcry over a Palestinian mortar launcher being placed on a UN school.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/....N.-School.php

So basically there's a pattern of choosing to put weapons in the very places that Israel will look terrible for striking.

ETA: Here's a link to the recent UN school controversy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Fakhura_school_strike
I wanted to post it so as not to be seeming to misrepresent what happened most recently since there's debate about whether there were mortar fired from the school recently.

On the other hand, Israel could choose to use ground forces and carefully monitor from within Gaza, but that's going to equal occupation in a lot of people's minds, or they could try to keep weapons from entering from the outside of the area, but then it's a blockade.

Other than relocating the Jewish homeland to Wyoming, I'm not sure there's much that Israel is ever going to be able to do to promote peace and be able to protect themselves at the same time.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Because you had a lot more to say about t-shirts?

That is the topic of the thread...moreso....racial profiling in the US post 9/11


If you read thru all of page four, you would see that I am correct...you all are talking about Israel vs Palestine = not on the topic as indicated by the title of the post.


...nice try at the snark

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

That is the topic of the thread...moreso....racial profiling in the US post 9/11


If you read thru all of page four, you would see that I am correct...you all are talking about Israel vs Palestine = not on the topic as indicated by the title of the post.


...nice try at the snark

You may realize that this happens a lot.

By all means, jump back in with an on topic post.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

You may realize that this happens a lot.

By all means, jump back in with an on topic post.

UGA....your thoughts on this from earlier perhaps:

This particluar story shory should home in on the point that the person that threatens to blow up a plane may very well look like you


http://www.ajc.com/services/content/...svc=7&cxcat=13

Video: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...les&id=6592616

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

UGA....your thoughts on this from earlier perhaps:

This particluar story shory should home in on the point that the person that threatens to blow up a plane may very well look like you


http://www.ajc.com/services/content/...svc=7&cxcat=13

Video: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...les&id=6592616

Sure the person who threatens to might look like any of us. How about the people who have actually blown up passenger jets in the last 50 years? What have they looked like? Are there a couple of IRA guys in the mix maybe? Why don't you dig up the data?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...aft_hijackings

It still wouldn't mean much in terms of how we ought to treat the non-plane blowing up passengers.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

How about the people who have actually blown up passenger jets in the last 50 years?

And exactly how often does this happen?


How often have planes blown up in the past 50 years?

For that matter, can you say what is the ratio of actual bomb threats and racial makeup of those who are perceived as actually going thru with said threat?

I wouldn't be too surprised to find out that the majority of people who attempt bomb scares are our own non minority US citizens

and BTW...we are talking US hijackings....nice wikipedia source (not 100% reliable mind you) and I am going off the assumption you were talking about actually BLOWN UP planes.

So let's get this straight are you referring to actual BLOWN UP planes or simple hijackings...make it clear.

ETA: Furthermore, after looking over your wiki link hmmm we have

Lebanese, Egyptian, US citizens, Chinese, Indian, Ethiopian, Iranian, Filipino, Sri Lankan, Croatian, Cuban, German, Japanese and so on...

You know what that says, anybody can be a hijacker...

[preciousjeni]

The thread blew up while I was away, but this comment

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24

I dont agree with everything Israel does. I dont agree with everything the USA does. But I will defend both at all costs. This is not a war based on land or history. It is based on theology. I personally believe Israel has a biblical mandate to that land.

gets a big fat

[AlphaDeltaDelta]

A semi off topic comment but this reminded me of it. Mark Bingham, one of the men credited with stopping the terrorists on United flight 93 from crashing the plane into the Pentagon, was a member of my Alpha. I was looking over the room I'm moving into next semester in the Lodge, and found his name carved into the wall. The whole plane hijacking topic reminded me of it, sorry to do a hijacking of my own.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AlphaDeltaDelta

A semi off topic comment but this reminded me of it. Mark Bingham, one of the men credited with stopping the terrorists on United flight 92 from crashing the plane into the Pentagon, was a member of my Alpha. I was looking over the room I'm moving into next semester in the Lodge, and found his name carved into the wall. The whole plane hijacking topic reminded me of it, sorry to do a hijacking of my own.

Thankfully nobody died with your hijacking....lol

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

And exactly how often does this happen?


How often have planes blown up in the past 50 years?

For that matter, can you say what is the ratio of actual bomb threats and racial makeup of those who are perceived as actually going thru with said threat?

I wouldn't be too surprised to find out that the majority of people who attempt bomb scares are our own non minority US citizens

and BTW...we are talking US hijackings....nice wikipedia source (not 100% reliable mind you) and I am going off the assumption you were talking about actually BLOWN UP planes.

So let's get this straight are you referring to actual BLOWN UP planes or simple hijackings...make it clear.

ETA: Furthermore, after looking over your wiki link hmmm we have

Lebanese, Egyptian, US citizens, Chinese, Indian, Ethiopian, Iranian, Filipino, Sri Lankan, Croatian, Cuban, German, Japanese and so on...

You know what that says, anybody can be a hijacker...

Why don't you find the accurate list of planes that have blown up?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Why don't you find the accurate list of planes that have blown up?

Sweetie...that's not what we are talking about, please try to keep up.

Racial profiling in American airports is the topic...instead of getting frustrated, snarky and making asinine requests for stats....just talk...that's all...I know you are itching for any chance to put me down but damn, JUST TALK to the topic...


Now...as it is, to the topic, part of the problem with profiling in general is that as the public makes generalizations of a particular group overlooking their neighbors.

Thus the 'shock' when you have that 1 'aberration'.

For instance:

How many people were shocked:

- the Virginia Tech was Asian and not a white man?
- the Beltway sniper was black and not Middle Eastern?
- the Oklahoma bomber was a white male and not middle eastern?
- the anthrax attacker was also a white male and not middle eastern?

In some of these cases notably the last one, people play on the public's fears by making it look like another element 'commonly shown' to commit such acts.

ON another tangent but in the same ballpark, see Susan Smith and Charles Stuart.