240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

[epchick]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Can you see that you're sort of talking about of both sides of your mouth? On the one hand Israel shouldn't "occupy" the territories; the other hand, they shouldn't use air strikes, they should raid every suspected storage area or combatant hide-out.

Ok, so I said that Israel shouldn't have so many checkpoints in the land occupied by the Palestinians. I also said that instead of bombing places, they should raid the suspected hideouts/storage areas to see if they are in fact hideouts/storage. I don't see those two comments as "talking [out] of both sides of my mouth."

If Israel thinks that epchick's house in Gaza City is housing weapons, instead of bombing epchick's house (and killing her family, and any civilians in the area cause bombs aren't just nice little things that stay contained in that one little area) why don't they send in troops to snoop around and see if there are actually weapons. If no weapons are found, don't bomb the house, and allow epchick's family to continue to stay there safely.

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

ETA: the reason it doesn't make much sense to me is that it demands a pretty big concession from Israel when there has been absolutely no reason to think it will actually result in increased Israeli security. To the contrary, it exposes Israel to much more risk. Also, it refers to entities that don't really exist as they did in the initial treaty.

I can understand that.

[AlphaDeltaDelta]

Originally Posted by epchick

Ok, so I said that Israel shouldn't have so many checkpoints in the land occupied by the Palestinians. I also said that instead of bombing places, they should raid the suspected hideouts/storage areas to see if they are in fact hideouts/storage. I don't see those two comments as "talking [out] of both sides of my mouth."

If Israel thinks that epchick's house in Gaza City is housing weapons, instead of bombing epchick's house (and killing her family, and any civilians in the area cause bombs aren't just nice little things that stay contained in that one little area) why don't they send in troops to snoop around and see if there are actually weapons. If no weapons are found, don't bomb the house, and allow epchick's family to continue to stay there safely.



I can understand that.

Israel wouldn't have checkpoints in the Palestinian areas if the Palestinian leaders would keep Palestinians terrorists from constantly harassing the state of Israel...

Attacking with ground troops vs airstrikes... If you send in ground troops, you are putting their lives in major danger... If you send in ground troops, it may take them some time to get there, and by then all these mobile rocket launchers will be gone.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by AlphaDeltaDelta

Attacking with ground troops vs airstrikes... If you send in ground troops, you are putting their lives in major danger... If you send in ground troops, it may take them some time to get there, and by then all these mobile rocket launchers will be gone.

Well, if Israel truly is surrounding Gaza City, I doubt it would take them long to get there.

[DaemonSeid]

Israel vs Palestine = New thread

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Israel vs Palestine = New thread

Because you had a lot more to say about t-shirts?

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by starang21

^^^^^

plummeted the average IQ in this thread into the negatives.

there has been mature adult discussion on this board about race in the past. you just aren't equipped to contribute.

And the only thing you ever contribute to those threads are assinine comments that have no substance.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

And the only thing you ever contribute to those threads are assinine comments that have no substance.

that's because your mind is too feeble to comprehend them.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Because you had a lot more to say about t-shirts?

That is the topic of the thread...moreso....racial profiling in the US post 9/11


If you read thru all of page four, you would see that I am correct...you all are talking about Israel vs Palestine = not on the topic as indicated by the title of the post.


...nice try at the snark

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

That is the topic of the thread...moreso....racial profiling in the US post 9/11


If you read thru all of page four, you would see that I am correct...you all are talking about Israel vs Palestine = not on the topic as indicated by the title of the post.


...nice try at the snark

You may realize that this happens a lot.

By all means, jump back in with an on topic post.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by epchick

Ok, so I said that Israel shouldn't have so many checkpoints in the land occupied by the Palestinians. I also said that instead of bombing places, they should raid the suspected hideouts/storage areas to see if they are in fact hideouts/storage. I don't see those two comments as "talking [out] of both sides of my mouth."

If Israel thinks that epchick's house in Gaza City is housing weapons, instead of bombing epchick's house (and killing her family, and any civilians in the area cause bombs aren't just nice little things that stay contained in that one little area) why don't they send in troops to snoop around and see if there are actually weapons. If no weapons are found, don't bomb the house, and allow epchick's family to continue to stay there safely.



I can understand that.

But the problem, I think, is that the weapons are typically placed in this type locations deliberately.

Here's an old story from 2007 about outcry over a Palestinian mortar launcher being placed on a UN school.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/....N.-School.php

So basically there's a pattern of choosing to put weapons in the very places that Israel will look terrible for striking.

ETA: Here's a link to the recent UN school controversy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Fakhura_school_strike
I wanted to post it so as not to be seeming to misrepresent what happened most recently since there's debate about whether there were mortar fired from the school recently.

On the other hand, Israel could choose to use ground forces and carefully monitor from within Gaza, but that's going to equal occupation in a lot of people's minds, or they could try to keep weapons from entering from the outside of the area, but then it's a blockade.

Other than relocating the Jewish homeland to Wyoming, I'm not sure there's much that Israel is ever going to be able to do to promote peace and be able to protect themselves at the same time.