DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES

[SAEalumnus]

Originally Posted by alumnisec

...our chapters in the Philippines are still waiting for the final recognition this coming January 9, 2009 as what the executive director had told me...

Today's the day. I wonder how soon we'll have an answer? Any DUs in contact with HQ to be able to find out?

[alumnisec]

We are ready for whatever it may takes as I`ve said before ,we will accept and respect the decision of the Board.At least we try our best and we are well prepare for the outcome of the meeting.

Just want to thank all those DU`s who are members of these greekchat forum for not even reacting nor commenting on whatever we have posted here.Thanks to Kyle of Iowa chapter for accepting our affiliation to the IHQ and even posted in this greekchat forum the forwarded letter being sent to thier chapter during the Board of Director Meeting last October 24-26 ,2008 regarding our application for recognition.

If ever we will be approve or disapprove , all I could say is, In behalf of the Delta Upsilon in the Philippines we are grateful to be a part (even if not official due to unchartered) of this fraternity but our existence depends on the final decision of the Board and our brotherhood now lies on the result of the meeting starting today ,and to all North American DU`s and as well in Canada ,just want to thank you all for your consideration and as well as repecting our application to be a recognize chapter.

Thank to you all cause I don`t know if maybe this is my last day of posting if ever we will be disapprove.Thanks again an best regards to all!!!

[alumnisec]

Delta Upsilon`s first chapter in the Philippines was in Silliman University wherein its one of the top schools in the Philippines.

Here is the complete data :
http://www.philippinenews.com/article.php?id=1503

http://www.filipinasoul.com/the-phil...-universities/

[rufio]

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus

Today's the day. I wonder how soon we'll have an answer? Any DUs in contact with HQ to be able to find out?

i've been with IHQ all weekend. 8th - 11th for convention in Indy. our UGAB only briefly mentioned the topic in passing but it didnt seem like it was a big item to talk about on the agenda. Honestly, i think the issue was hardly discussed seeing as how all of IHQ was busy running our Winter Conference. i heard the topic tabled to the 16th. but this is all info i've just overheard, nothing official.

[alumnisec]

Ruf are we disapprove?If ever you have any idea please let me know cause am also waiting for the email of the exec director Justin Kirk ,if we will be disapprove its fine with us we will respect the decision of the Board.

Although all of us will be sadden but we will accept the truth that it is not easy to apply for recognition.

Thanks for the infos you posted here ,please do post always if ever you have new news on our affiliation.

[SAEalumnus]

Originally Posted by rufio

i heard the topic tabled to the 16th. but this is all info i've just overheard, nothing official.

Any updates?

[rufio]

not that i'm aware of.

[rslpac1]

Greetings all,

I've been reading the DU in the Phillipines thread, and thought I would add some interesting information.

Though I'm not one to pass judgement, I thought I'd share with you what would hypothetically happen if something like this happened in Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia Fraternity, a Men's Music Fraternity in the USA of which I am a proud brother. Please don't mistake this as passing judgement on anything going on - just wanted to share with you would would probably happen if something like this happened with Sinfonia.

First and Foremost colonization and chartering of chapter of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia can only be done through the consent and approval of the National Fraternity. This is regardless of geography, be it in Alaska, Hawaii, or 10 minutes from our HQ in Indiana.

Any entity that uses our name and rituals without the approval of the fraternity would probably receive a stop and desist communication from our National HQ/Officers, followed by an investigation by the fraternity, and possible legal action. Especially if a group got fed up with waiting and found some way to be initiated anyway - this is a violation of many rules and regulations that the fraternity has and would be cause for the disbandment of the group looking to join the fraternity.

Any collegiate group that wants to form a chapter of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia must go through the colonization process. Only collegiate chapters are authorized to initiate members; this is strictly enforced as alumni associations nor colonies can not initiate. When a colony becomes a chapter they are initiated by another collegiate chapter (a "big brother" chapter). Only active, chartered chapters in good standing with the fraternity may initiate new members.

This is our colonization process:
http://www.sinfonia.org/Resources/Gu...%20Program.pdf

(FYI - I am a president of an alumni association and have served Sinfonia in many different leadership positions.)

I hope this was informative and helpful. Please keep in mind that this is only my best guess what would happen if my fraternity was presented with the same issues as faced by Delta Upsilon. I hope everything is resolved in a peaceful and logical manner.

Fraternally,
Rich L.
Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia Fraternity of America (www.sinfonia.org)
President, NYCAA
Gamma Alpha '92

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by rslpac1

Any entity that uses our name and rituals without the approval of the fraternity would probably receive a stop and desist communication from our National HQ/Officers, followed by an investigation by the fraternity, and possible legal action. Especially if a group got fed up with waiting and found some way to be initiated anyway - this is a violation of many rules and regulations that the fraternity has and would be cause for the disbandment of the group looking to join the fraternity.

Hey Rich, and welcome to GreekChat!

I get what you're saying in the quoted part above. The problem is that when, as here, the group in question is in another country (on the other side of the world, no less), realistically, from a legal and financial standpoint, a fraternity's options to investigate and take legal action are going to be very limited.

Fraternally,

[naraht]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Hey Rich, and welcome to GreekChat!

I get what you're saying in the quoted part above. The problem is that when, as here, the group in question is in another country (on the other side of the world, no less), realistically, from a legal and financial standpoint, a fraternity's options to investigate and take legal action are going to be very limited.

Fraternally,

And trying to get that legal action enforced in the Philippines, especially if the group isn't a business registered with the Philippine SEC gets somewhat difficult.

There have been many different reactions from USA Greek Letter Organizations to groups with the same name in the Philippines. On the one hand, you have Alpha Sigma Phi, where eventually they accepted the group in the Philippines as a separate national organization as a separate International Umbrella, on the other hand you have Phi Beta Kappa where the USA organizations is going through the effort to sue in the Philippines. (I think Phi Beta Kappa is into the second year of the effort).

There are several groups in the middle including Delta Upsilon(Phil), Alpha Tau Omega(Phil) and Sigma Alpha Epsilon(Phil). Delta Upsilon(Phil) is attempting to affiliate. Alpha Tau Omega(Phil) and Sigma Alpha Epsilon(Phil) seem to be using symbols that are derived from those of the US groups. Whether the Philippine National approves of that, I don't know. Not sure what the situation is with Sigma Nu...

For Alpha Phi Omega, the effort in the Philippines has been approved by the US group since the year it started.

Randy