DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES

[naraht]

Originally Posted by alumnisec

Nahrat for your information we have done 20 things in bringing DU to the campus , and we never did try to establish Delta Upsilon without permission.It just so happened that all of us the pioneers in the Philippines are already alumni and because we try to work abroad thats why we didn`t process the recognition consistently.

Before I was in Singapore working as data controller and now I`m here in Riyadh, KSA working as Department Manager.We are seeking also our future therefore applying for recognition to our chapters in the Philippines wasn`t that easy until in 2008 last year that our brothers in the Philippines had called us and inform that Delta Upsilon is getting strong in our country so I decided and all the alumni decided to pursue the application for recognition.

Don`t compare our affiliation with APO-Phil and Alphasig-Phil cause in the past there wasn`t internet as you know and the process of applying for recognition before can`t be done by emails instead by personal visit only.Unlike now, that I do have contact with the Exec Director and I keep on sending emails to him and as well as informing me that the final decision will be on this coming January 9 ,2009.As a matter of fact we are still under investigation and last October 23-26 ,2008 if am not mistaken during the Board of Directors meeting our chapters had been discuss and included in the agenda.

Honestly, am a fratman in college ,two time member of different fraternities , I decided to quit cause i really hate hazing !!!!I was even the president of these fraternities until times comes that I finish college that I decided to leave the fraternity.

About APO and ALPHASIG they are great fraternities in the Philippines ,in fact most politicians are APO member.With regards to Alpha Sigma Phi I know a lot about the history of this fraternity here in the Philippines ,its right that in 1984 the ties between ASP-USA and ASP-Phil was done.Indeed, one representative from the Philippines ,the late Atty. Leandro Echavez was the father of my soon to be wife.And even her is also a member of Alpha Sigma Phi.The only difference of ASP-USA and ASP-Phil is that USA is exlcusive for men only or shall we say fraternity while in the Philippines its COED or both men and women can joined the group.

I just want to say something to some people who will gonna post again and still continue to put us down all I can say is that please give us some space cause we don`t disturb u nor we mind your business!!!!!!

I was not the one who questioned how the ritual could be legal. As I understand from your post, the people who first initiated brothers in the Philippines are alumni of Delta Upsilon in North America, is this correct?

In many ways your proposed affiliation is somewhat between those of Alpha Phi Omega than Alpha Sigma Phi.

For Alpha Phi Omega, the difference in time between brothers being initiated in the Philippines (March 1950) and acceptance of this fact by the North American Fraternity was a matter of months and *that* delay was mostly waiting for the next National Convention (December 1950). Alpha Phi Omega's National Board was kept informed during the entire process. While relations were informally suspended after the Ferdinand Tabtab situation, there was *never* a feeling that the group in the Philippines was in any way illegally using any symbols. (See http://www.apo.org.ph/?mode=articles&cmd=view&id=72) (I'm on both Alpha Phi Omega national History and Archives Committee and on the International Relations Committee)

For Alpha Sigma Phi, I haven't any information to indicate that Alpha Sigma Phi in North America was aware of the founding of Alpha Sigma Phi in the Philippines, in fact given that the first two chapters in the Philippines which were founded in 1959 and 1965 were not themselves merged into a single national organization until 1972, I would be surprised if the North American brothers were aware prior to that time.

I would frankly *love* to see Delta Upsilon in the Philippines in affiliation with Delta Upsilon of North America. However, due to differences in standard of living *and* the college life between North America and the Philippines, that requirements that make sense in one may not make sense in the other. For this reason, I think that an international affiliation of the form of Alpha Phi Omega or Alpha Sigma Phi would be superior to that of becoming a province of Delta Upsilon of North America. Having said that, becoming a province would be massively superior to the current situation.

[SAEalumnus]

Originally Posted by naraht

I was not the one who questioned how the ritual could be legal. As I understand from your post, the people who first initiated brothers in the Philippines are alumni of Delta Upsilon in North America, is this correct?

This is not correct. The seven "pioneers" as they term themselves obtained DU's ritual online and initiated themselves. They were students from the Philippines who are now alumni from the Philippines. No one from DU in North America participated in their "initiation."

[naraht]

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus

This is not correct. The seven "pioneers" as they term themselves obtained DU's ritual online and initiated themselves. They were students from the Philippines who are now alumni from the Philippines. No one from DU in North America participated in their "initiation."

Ah. That complicates things...

[SAEalumnus]

Originally Posted by naraht

Ah. That complicates things...

Agreed. There's absolutely a set protocol that is to be followed in the request to a GLO for a charter. Going about things the way the are is like putting the cart before the horse. It's not likely to do them any favors. Frankly I'd be very surprised if DU-IHQ actually granted them any kind of recognized status.

[alumnisec]

I am a 2000 graduate of BS Geology and the others are same with my course and Engineering courses.We establish the fraternity in the year 2004 and we do have respective jobs already when we have decided to expand Delta Upsilon.

In 2001 I was already started working abroad and same with my brothers who have decided to migrate in other countries.I am a former president of my fraternities during college way back 1996-2000.And I know a lot with regards to registration of fraternities in universities that is why in 2004 we come up to a decision to try to ask for approval to Delta Upsilon in North America if they will allow us to expand thier fraternity to our country.

What encourage us before to establish and expand Delta Upsilon in the Philippines was that there are two alumni from Alberta and Miami chapter that had responded our emails and advice us to solidify the fraternity and as well as send the list of members and photos to the IHQ for reference.Due to this we decided to solidify it by making the fraternity registered to Silliman University (www.su.edu.ph) or the first chapter where Delta Upsilon was expanded.

But our application wasn`t consistent for the reason that we do also want our future to be stable so we migrate again to other countries for the good of our carrrier.But last year we do finalize our application for recognition cause the fraternity has been expanding to other parts of the country and in fact we do have 6-7 active chapters now.

We don`t want to expect that we will be recognize but at least we did our best to be affiliated to the International.The alumni association of Delta Upsilon in the Philippines and also the undergraduates chapters are ready for whatever it may takes regarding our affiliation.We will accept it.