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12-16-2008, 01:04 PM
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Did anyone else notice that Bush looked slightly amused after dodging the first shoe?
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12-16-2008, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam
Did anyone else notice that Bush looked slightly amused after dodging the first shoe?
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He was actually amused by it.
here you are:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/BushL...6460837&page=1
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12-16-2008, 01:12 PM
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Arab rage expressed through shoe toss
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The hurling of shoes at Bush on his last visit to Iraq as president made an ironic bookend to one of the first images after the 2003 U.S. invasion, when Iraqi opponents of deposed leader Saddam Hussein toppled one of his statues in Baghdad and hit it with their shoes.
Zeidi attained instant hero status around the Arab world. At one Baghdad elementary school, a geography teacher asked her students if they had seen the footage of the shoe-throwing, then told them, "All Iraqis should be proud of this Iraqi brave man, Muntadhar. History will remember him forever."
In Baghdad's Shiite slum of Sadr City, thousands of supporters of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr burned American flags in protest of Bush and called for the release of Zeidi, a 28-year-old Shiite who works for the private Iraqi TV station Al-Baghdadia.
What made Zeidi's defiance particularly resonant for many was their anger at autocratic Arab leaders whom they have considered slavish followers of Bush's policies in the Middle East.
Abdel-Sattar Qassem, a Palestinian political-science professor at the West Bank's An Najah University, wrote in an online commentary: "Bush wanted to end his bloody term hearing compliments and welcoming words from his collaborators in the Arab and Islamic world. But a shoe from a real Arab man summed up Bush's black history and told the entire world that the Arabs hold their head high."
The Iraq war is the most prominent cause of Arab resentment of Bush. Even many who were outraged at Shiite and Sunni militant groups for the killing of civilians and sectarian strife that tore the country apart ultimately blamed Bush for unleashing the chaos. Some accuse his administration of fueling Shiite-Sunni tensions across the region.
More broadly, nearly every U.S. policy in the region became seen as part of a campaign to divide or subjugate Muslim nations, from Iran and Syria to Sudan and Somalia.
The Bush administration's "war on terror" was seen as a war on Muslims and Arabs in general, an image fueled by civilian deaths in Afghanistan and, in particular, the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.
Bush was seen as heavily favoring Israel over the Palestinians. His administration's campaign to isolate the Palestinian militant group Hamas translated to the Arab public as an attempt to starve Palestinians in Hamas-ruled Gaza.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...lysis1216.html
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12-16-2008, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
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The hurling of shoes at Bush on his last visit to Iraq as president made an ironic bookend to one of the first images after the 2003 U.S. invasion, when Iraqi opponents of deposed leader Saddam Hussein toppled one of his statues in Baghdad and hit it with their shoes.
Zeidi attained instant hero status around the Arab world. At one Baghdad elementary school, a geography teacher asked her students if they had seen the footage of the shoe-throwing, then told them, "All Iraqis should be proud of this Iraqi brave man, Muntadhar. History will remember him forever."
In Baghdad's Shiite slum of Sadr City, thousands of supporters of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr burned American flags in protest of Bush and called for the release of Zeidi, a 28-year-old Shiite who works for the private Iraqi TV station Al-Baghdadia.
What made Zeidi's defiance particularly resonant for many was their anger at autocratic Arab leaders whom they have considered slavish followers of Bush's policies in the Middle East.
Abdel-Sattar Qassem, a Palestinian political-science professor at the West Bank's An Najah University, wrote in an online commentary: "Bush wanted to end his bloody term hearing compliments and welcoming words from his collaborators in the Arab and Islamic world. But a shoe from a real Arab man summed up Bush's black history and told the entire world that the Arabs hold their head high."
The Iraq war is the most prominent cause of Arab resentment of Bush. Even many who were outraged at Shiite and Sunni militant groups for the killing of civilians and sectarian strife that tore the country apart ultimately blamed Bush for unleashing the chaos. Some accuse his administration of fueling Shiite-Sunni tensions across the region.
More broadly, nearly every U.S. policy in the region became seen as part of a campaign to divide or subjugate Muslim nations, from Iran and Syria to Sudan and Somalia.
The Bush administration's "war on terror" was seen as a war on Muslims and Arabs in general, an image fueled by civilian deaths in Afghanistan and, in particular, the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.
Bush was seen as heavily favoring Israel over the Palestinians. His administration's campaign to isolate the Palestinian militant group Hamas translated to the Arab public as an attempt to starve Palestinians in Hamas-ruled Gaza.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...lysis1216.html
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And you support this shoe throwing, along with thousands of supporters of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr that burned American flags in protest of Bush.
Damn dude, you keep good company.
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12-16-2008, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ufpika
And you support this shoe throwing, along with thousands of supporters of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr that burned American flags in protest of Bush.
Damn dude, you keep good company.
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Yes.
Our sitting president?
Don't support him, didn't vote for him neither time.
I think he is the WORST we have ever had in recent history.
Messed up economy
People out of work
heathcare in shambles
Education system producing dumb assed kids
and I haven't even GOTTEN to the war.
He and his admin I believe are responsible for mostly why we are in the mess that we are in now worldwide and since this year started I could not wait for 1/20/2009, regardless of whoever was voted for.
And the tip of the iceberg?
To make you go nuts?
The guy that threw the shoe?
.....more power to him.
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12-16-2008, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
heathcare in shambles
Education system producing dumb assed kids
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This was the case before Bush was elected the first time around.
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12-16-2008, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
This was the case before Bush was elected the first time around.
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And nothing was done to stop the slide (NCLB? HAH! Medicare reform?? WHERE?) because we were too busy wasting money in this war which hasn't really produced anything but deeper dissent towards the US as accented by the shoe thrown at Bush.
ahhh but we are circling around the carcass again aren't we.
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12-16-2008, 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Yes.
Our sitting president?
Don't support him, didn't vote for him neither time.
I think he is the WORST we have ever had in recent history.
Messed up economy
People out of work
heathcare in shambles
Education system producing dumb assed kids
and I haven't even GOTTEN to the war.
He and his admin I believe are responsible for mostly why we are in the mess that we are in now worldwide and since this year started I could not wait for 1/20/2009, regardless of whoever was voted for.
And the tip of the iceberg?
To make you go nuts?
The guy that threw the shoe?
.....more power to him.
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So the President is the reason that we can't hire good qualified teachers to teach our kids? How is healthcare in shambles? We have the best and most advanced healthcare in the world. When people in other countries get sick, they come to the US for treatment (when available). People not having healthcare b/c their employer doesn't provide it doesn't mean our system is in shambles.
Messed up economy??? Didn't the economy take its largest downturn around 9/11? And wasn't that in the first 3 month's of Bush's first term? That falls on Mr. Clinton. 9/11 was planned for years, it didn't happen in 3 months. Actually, 9/11 falls on many presidents before Bush (indluding his father) that failed to pull the trigger when they had Osama Bin Laden in their crosshairs.
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12-16-2008, 02:10 PM
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When people in other countries get sick, they come to the US for treatment (when available).
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Not really. We certainly have world-class facilities for some illnesses (cancer comes to mind) but our primary care is only comparable to what many other countries offer.
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12-16-2008, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ufpika
Messed up economy??? Didn't the economy take its largest downturn around 9/11? And wasn't that in the first 3 month's of Bush's first term? That falls on Mr. Clinton. 9/11 was planned for years, it didn't happen in 3 months. Actually, 9/11 falls on many presidents before Bush (indluding his father) that failed to pull the trigger when they had Osama Bin Laden in their crosshairs.
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How is the economy right now?
Forget 2001...right. now.
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12-16-2008, 03:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ufpika
Didn't the economy take its largest downturn around 9/11? And wasn't that in the first 3 month's of Bush's first term? That falls on Mr. Clinton. 9/11 was planned for years, it didn't happen in 3 months.
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Forgetting the rest of this... Because this quote makes me think you're an idiot.
9/11 means 11 September
The president takes office 20 January.
How is that 3 months on any planet?
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12-16-2008, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam
Did anyone else notice that Bush looked slightly amused after dodging the first shoe?
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Yes and he smirked. I probably would've had the same reaction. I may not have been so quick on my feet to dodge them, though.
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