2008 NCAA Football

[Kevin]

And UT fans will squeal like pigs under a gate when that policy someday excludes them from a CCG

IMHO, the BCS standings shouldn't be used at all. I actually thought Mike Leach had the best idea for determining the winner -- go by the graduation rate.

But if you want to be even more fair, I'd take the points for v. points against of all common opponents (the highest difference wins) before looking at something as arbitrary as BCS standings.

The fact that OU went on the road to the No. 12 team in the country and beat them on their own field and then was dropped in the polling is just ridiculous.

At any rate, UT is due a screwing after what Mack and his campaigning did to Cal in 2004. If nothing else, there's a solid karma argument to be made.

At any rate, how would you feel about this policy:

Divisional Tiebreakers: The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:

If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative
If three or more teams are tied, Texas wins.
If Texas is not one of the three teams tied, Texas wins.
If one or both of the divisional winners lost to Texas at some point during the season, Texas wins.
If three teams are tied, but Texas beat the North winner, Texas win

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by Kevin

At any rate, how would you feel about this policy:

Divisional Tiebreakers: The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:

If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative
If three or more teams are tied, Texas wins.
If Texas is not one of the three teams tied, Texas wins.
If one or both of the divisional winners lost to Texas at some point during the season, Texas wins.
If three teams are tied, but Texas beat the North winner, Texas win

Sounds good to me!

I also kid.

Only slightly.

[lyrelyre]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

it will end up that after the season the Big XII will adopt the SEC version of that tie breaker where it is BCS standing, but if the top two teams are within 5 positions of each other than the head-to-head matchup between those two teams is dispositive.

Originally Posted by Kevin

IMHO, the BCS standings shouldn't be used at all.

It seems natural to me that a conference would want the team with the highest BCS standing to play in its conference championship simply because it increases the chances of a team from that conference playing in the national championship game. I know this year a win by either Texas or Oklahoma would likely have resulted in a Big XII team in the national championship; however, a conference cannot always count on having two (2) teams with such high BCS rankings. I think it could be a mistake for the Big XII to change the tiebreaker system. Sometimes even a difference of only five (5) positions would result in the conference sending the lower BCS ranked team to its conference championship; thus, potentially prohibiting the higher BCS ranked team’s appearances in a national championship game.

There really isn’t a perfect solution.

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by lyrelyre

It seems natural to me that a conference would want the team with the highest BCS standing to play in its conference championship simply because it increases the chances of a team from that conference playing in the national championship game. I know this year a win by either Texas or Oklahoma would likely have resulted in a Big XII team in the national championship; however, a conference cannot always count on having two (2) teams with such high BCS rankings. I think it could be a mistake for the Big XII to change the tiebreaker system. Sometimes even a difference of only five (5) positions would result in the conference sending the lower BCS ranked team to its conference championship; thus, potentially prohibiting the higher BCS ranked team’s appearances in a national championship game.

There really isn’t a perfect solution.

It isn't the conference championship game's job to send a team to the national championship game, it's their job to crown the conference champion in the fairest way possible.

And yeah, I think another 3 way tie isn't likely for a while again anyways, particularly since if I had to guess Leach will be at Auburn next season.

[Munchkin03]

You guys, I'm so pumped for tomorrow.

My peeps and I are setting up a party at one of the bars here that call itself an "official" outpost of Gator Nation. My orange and blue is out and ready. I even wore an orange and blue cardigan on Tuesday. It's cuter than it sounds.

For someone who didn't even go to UF, I love those Gators!

[lyrelyre]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

It isn't the conference championship game's job to send a team to the national championship game, it's their job to crown the conference champion in the fairest way possible.

And yeah, I think another 3 way tie isn't likely for a while again anyways, particularly since if I had to guess Leach will be at Auburn next season.

I agree that another three (3) way tie is unlikely.

However, considering the money, both for the school and the conference, at stake when appearing in a national championship game, I cannot agree that the conference championship game shouldn't be (and isn't) somewhat calculated to attempt to send a team to the national championship game.

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by lyrelyre

I agree that another three (3) way tie is unlikely.

However, considering the money, both for the school and the conference, at stake when appearing in a national championship game, I cannot agree that the conference championship game shouldn't be (and isn't) somewhat calculated to attempt to send a team to the national championship game.

National Title Game pays the same as the rest of the BCS Bowl Berths (I believe $17 million, but I'm not sure) and the conference champ gets an automatic berth and in the event of a 3 way tie a second berth is almost guaranteed. Since you're limited to 2 BCS berths and would receive 2 almost assuredly either way, than there is no monetary difference between the two. Most conferences split their bowl money, so it really doesn't matter to them who goes or to which game, as long as it's a BCS bowl.