2008 NCAA Football

Kevin · #1 12-07-2008, 04:29 AM

Typical SECist argument really. The counter, of course, and I'm sure you've heard it, is that the SEC has completely awful offenses, so, of course, the defensive stats will be better.

The only head to head we have is UT v. Arkansas. If you'll recall, Arkansas was routed 52-10 (how's that for some SEC defensive football?). That terrible Arkansas team went on to play the rest of the weak SEC in a very competitive way, losing a lot of games, but every single one of them was close.

As for McCoy doing more with less, a great quarterback makes the players around him great by putting the ball where it needs to be. Bradford has done just that and he's the spark of the best offense in NCAA history (discounting the teams of the 19th century). Bradford also will set the record this season for being the most efficient passer of all time.

At any rate, the SEC is having a really bad down year. They have awful offensive play except for Florida. That does not make the defenses better (Auburn? Arkansas? LSU? Come on, they're all pretty bad).

The SEC hasn't done that much better in bowl games than any other conference... in fact, they don't have any reason to say they're any better than anyone this year.

You can't really say Bradford is a system QB. His performance vs. those before him is not even really comparable. Also, if it's a "system" that can produce ridiculous yards and scores, as OU does, why doesn't everyone run that system? Not enough Bradfords to go around I guess. Also, if you're wanting to talk about the head to head -- Bradford v. McCoy, Bradford actually had better numbers at OU-TX, tossing 5 TD's versus 2 interceptions (one coming on a hail mary at the end of the game).

The fact is that there is very little to go on re: SEC vs. Big XII. The SEC is not better than the Big XII, especially the Big XII South. Top to bottom, at least in 2008, I think the Big XII would dominate the SEC due to the horrendous quarterback play in the SEC.

CrackerBarrel · #2 12-07-2008, 12:26 PM

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The fact is that there is very little to go on re: SEC vs. Big XII. The SEC is not better than the Big XII, especially the Big XII South. Top to bottom, at least in 2008, I think the Big XII would dominate the SEC due to the horrendous quarterback play in the SEC.

I think Florida is a good bit better than OU (and I think they'll prove that). Bama is about even with Texas, then there's the mismatch of the third best SEC team is probably Ole Miss vs. TTech (advantage Big XII I would certainly think, but that will probably be the Cotton Bowl matchup, so we'll see). Georgia is about the equal of OSU and better than Mizzou and Nebraska. LSU is about equal to Kansas. Nebraska and Mizzou are probably better than SC and Vandy. The bottom of the conference the SEC picks back up though, because Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, Auburn and MSU are worlds better than Baylor, A&M, Colorado, KState and Iowa State.

I think at the very top team the SEC is better, about equal for second, Big XII wins the middle and SEC wins the bottom.

Kevin · #3 12-07-2008, 05:14 PM

[quote=CrackerBarrel;1752220]Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, Auburn and MSU are worlds better than Baylor, A&M, Colorado, KState and Iowa State.

Based on what? Every one of those SEC teams suffers from awful QB play. So egregiously bad, in fact, that half of those teams fired their coaches. Colorado went on the road and beat West Virginia; A&M is awful, I'll give yo u that, more awful than Auburn though? I don't think so. Worse tahn Tennessee? Heck no. Tennessee is damn bad; KState is as good as KY or Tenn this year, Iowa State, yep, they're bad, but could probably beat MSU; and then there's Baylor. With #10, Baylor is a different team. They'd probably have been competitive against teams like LSU and Arkie this year.

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I think at the very top team the SEC is better, about equal for second, Big XII wins the middle and SEC wins the bottom.

Georgia is enormously overrated, so that leaves you with Bama and Florida, both of whom have middle of the road defenses and decent offenses. I think Oklahoma State would eviscerate Georgia.. and I hope the BCS puts Bama in the Fiesta.