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Old 11-19-2008, 02:28 PM
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It's not being prejudiced, it's all I "see" because it is a historical aspect of me - where I come from. I see prejudices in a lot of places. I'm just more likely to speak up about Black history / culture because that is what I am a part of.
All of which is irrelevant to your unfounded (and unsupportable) claim that the Civil Rights Movement is the only reference or connection being made by "their" side.
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That Holocaust argument is really bothering me.
I agree with much of what you said. But since it did get brought up, I think it is useful for illustrating that there isn't any group that has a monopoly on being discriminated against, and there are lessons to be learned from all instances of discrimination.
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I think it's kind of funny that the pro-marriage camp feels that having MORE people getting married will ruin the institution. If you were really interested in making lifelong commitment a more well-adhered to cultural practice, wouldn't you be excited that more people were interested in monogamy? It's like having a bunch of people agree with you!
Not really, because from the "pro-marriage" side, those advocating for gay marriages are not agreeing with you. The two sides are operating from a fundamental disagreement about what the word "marriage" means, with the "pro-marriage" side believing that a same-sex union cannot, by definition, be a marriage. Whether others disagree with them doesn't make their opinion go away. Hence, the impasse. But I think this explains why polls show that many people who are not comfortable with gay marriages (because they are convinced that a marriage, by definition, can only exist between a man and a woman) are willing to support civil unions.
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Old 11-19-2008, 03:01 PM
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The two sides are operating from a fundamental disagreement about what the word "marriage" means, with the "pro-marriage" side believing that a same-sex union cannot, by definition, be a marriage.
I feel like this is an argument that just doesn't make a lot of sense when you consider the institution in the abstract. It also proves to an extent that a lot of this debate is centered in prejudice.
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