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Old 10-29-2008, 11:43 PM
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I suspect hate group numbers are related to population size as well. Even if you just look at southern states that seems to be the case. ETA: except maybe for South Carolina.

But I wasn't finding a whole lot of merit in the look-these-practically-lily-white-states-don't-have-racial-violence or hate groups argument that seemed to be being made.

ETA: adding the hate group link again so I can find it easily:http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp
The Dakotas are practically hate group free. It must be because they are so progressive and tolerant.
You didn't even address my points about rural areas, the easy access to fire arms, and the tax issues that have drawn these groups to the area. They may not do things locally, but they have headquartered here. I even admitted the Aryan Nation had a huge stronghold less than 100 miles from where I live and creepily enough I met people who were involved in it because Idaho is totally inbred and small (it is more like 2 or 3 degrees of separation here, especially with the University).

Maybe the Dakotas don't have hate groups because of geography, tax laws, or something else. Sure they have the Black Hills but the wilderness out here with less people makes hiding out pretty easy. You're a lot more obvious shooting buffalo on the Plains than tracking elk in the Bitterroots. We're very much "mind your business" out in the boonies and luckily we don't condone it here, nor do most of the people of Montana (Peppy can speak for Washington, but she's on the Westside). The groups here were mostly run out by the government for tax and other issues, and moved back east (if I remember right above the Mason Dixon line) where they could operate the way they wanted to.

Also California (according to the SPLC) has "hate groups" against white Christians (the usual hate mongers when people think of hate groups), including the Nation of Islam, the Jewish Defense League, Voz de Aztlan. KSigRC is right that it has to do with population. I don't know why there are more groups in certain Southern states (I have hypotheses), but I do know why groups came to where I live and work, and why they aren't here anymore.
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