Second Presidential Debate

[BetteDavisEyes]

Originally Posted by pbear19

Across the blogs the one consistent thing I'm seeing mentioned is the "That One" remark. In fact, I've seen the youtube clip of it about 4 times now. Funny how a little thing like that gets legs.

That little clip made me laugh b/c I imagined how some morons will take that comment apart and make it out to be a HUGE pitfall and drama.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes

That little clip made me laugh b/c I imagined how some morons will take that comment apart and make it out to be a HUGE pitfall and drama.

It was condescending and icky.

[pinksirfidel]

As of 11:30PM...

Who won the debate tonight?
A. McCain - 86%
B. Obama - 12%
C. Undecided - 1%

I didn't think the debate was that clear-cut... but I guess for most Fox News viewers it was.

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

As of 11:30PM...

Who won the debate tonight?
A. McCain - 86%
B. Obama - 12%
C. Undecided - 1%

I didn't think the debate was that clear-cut... but I guess for most Fox News viewers it was.

Drudge and WSJ's online polls are both pretty similar where as CNN is split almost the same numbers but for Obama. I think you're just seeing a growing divide in where American's get their news because after this campaign it's going to take a while for ANY news source to really be seen as neutral again.

[texas*princess]

CNN.com has the same numbers but in favor of Obama

[BetteDavisEyes]

I have to admit that watching McCain shuffle around the floor was painful to watch. He looked every bit his 72 years of age. Scary!

I think Obama won the debate hands down.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

As of 11:30PM...

Who won the debate tonight?
A. McCain - 86%
B. Obama - 12%
C. Undecided - 1%

I didn't think the debate was that clear-cut... but I guess for most Fox News viewers it was.

LOL. (clearly all the College Republican Clubs were busy texting their little fingers off)

[pinksirfidel]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

LOL. (clearly all the College Republican Clubs were busy texting their little fingers off)

I was surprised b/c the Fox News text votes for the Palin/Biden debate were consistent with the results of the other networks.

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Drudge and WSJ's online polls are both pretty similar where as CNN is split almost the same numbers but for Obama. I think you're just seeing a growing divide in where American's get their news because after this campaign it's going to take a while for ANY news source to really be seen as neutral again.

You said it! It's funny (and a bit annoying) how I have to click back and forth between CNN or MSNBC and Fox News in an attempt to get a more balanced approach to news. Maybe I should just stick to CSPAN, hmmm....BOOORING!

[pinksirfidel]

Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes

That little clip made me laugh b/c I imagined how some morons will take that comment apart and make it out to be a HUGE pitfall and drama.

People are also picking apart the comment McCain made to an audience member... "you probably never heard of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before"... Although that statement stuck out to me, because I wondered who didn't know about Fannie/Freddie, I'm a little over the tid-for-tat in this election...by both the media and the candidates. It's getting old.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

People are also picking apart the comment McCain made to an audience member... "you probably never heard of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before"... Although that statement stuck out to me, because I wondered who didn't know about Fannie/Freddie, I'm a little over the tid-for-tat in this election...by both the media and the candidates. It's getting old.

pink another thing that is coming out too (on MSNBC) not only did he say it condescendingly I may add...he was addressing a Black male and also flubbed his name.

some other points

Mcain talked about buying up bad mortgages?

DIDNT THE US GOVT JUST DO THAT LAST WEEK???


another thing

especially since Palin spent the weekend and thru today talkign about it:

McCain had Obama on HIS floor in HIS format that he requested and not ONCE say CRAP about Ayres or Obama's 'questionable' associations?

and one last thing the MSM will pick apart

here is when McCain got unraveled

By the way, my friends, I know you grow a little weary with this back-and-forth. It was an energy bill on the floor of the Senate loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies, and it was sponsored by Bush and Cheney.

You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one. You know who voted against it? Me. I have fought time after time against these pork barrel -- these bills that come to the floor and they have all kinds of goodies and all kinds of things in them for everybody and they buy off the votes.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...al_debate.html

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

McCain had Obama on HIS floor in HIS format that he requested and not ONCE say CRAP about Ayres or Obama's 'questionable' associations?

I think it's been pretty well reported that Palin was tasked with pinning the association stuff on Obama, the goal was to keep McCain from having to do it.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I think it's been pretty well reported that Palin was tasked with pinning the association stuff on Obama, the goal was to keep McCain from having to do it.

great send the woman to do the man's job.

nittany...on the real...that was McCains opportunity to slide it in..Palin been doing it all week....that is punkish to talk about a man when he is not there to defend himself but at the moment you have him right in front of you, you remain silent.

But this is how I feel: The American public doesn't want to hear about that

F**k a smear.....fix the economy.

[pinksirfidel]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

pink another thing that is coming out too (on MSNBC) not only did he say it condescendingly I may add...he was addressing a Black male and also flubbed his name.

some other points

Mcain talked about buying up bad mortgages?

DIDNT THE US GOVT JUST DO THAT LAST WEEK???


another thing

especially since Palin spent the weekend and thru today talkign about it:

McCain had Obama on HIS floor in HIS format that he requested and not ONCE say CRAP about Ayres or Obama's 'questionable' associations?

and one last thing the MSM will pick apart

here is when McCain got unraveled

By the way, my friends, I know you grow a little weary with this back-and-forth. It was an energy bill on the floor of the Senate loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies, and it was sponsored by Bush and Cheney.

You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one. You know who voted against it? Me. I have fought time after time against these pork barrel -- these bills that come to the floor and they have all kinds of goodies and all kinds of things in them for everybody and they buy off the votes.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...al_debate.html

DaemonSeid--I didn't expect McCain to come out and make accusations about Obama-Ayers or attack his character all together. Why would he do such a dirty job and look bitter on primetime? I think that may be more appropriate for a rally.

I saw that it was a black man who asked the question, but honestly, i don't see the link between McCain's answers and the man itself... seems like a stretch to say he was taking down to him. Perhaps a presidential candidate should be better about remembering names, I suck at it, so I can't comment.

Regarding the "bail out for mortgages"... I was confused about this new proposal. I definitely wanted him to clarify.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

DaemonSeid--I didn't expect McCain to come out and make accusations about Obama-Ayers or attack his character all together. Why would he do such a dirty job and look bitter on primetime? I think that may be more appropriate for a rally.

I saw that it was a black man who asked the question, but honestly, i don't see the link between McCain's answers and the man itself... seems like a stretch to say he was taking down to him. Perhaps a presidential candidate should be better about remembering names, I suck at it, so I can't comment.

Regarding the "bail out for mortgages"... I was confused about this new proposal. I definitely wanted him to clarify.

I see it too...but the way it 'appeared' was just......off

Take it from me....when I ask you a question like that, the last thing I want from a white guy is to treat me like a child because obviously I understood it long enough to ask you about it.

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

pink another thing that is coming out too (on MSNBC) not only did he say it condescendingly I may add...he was addressing a Black male and also flubbed his name.

some other points

Mcain talked about buying up bad mortgages?

DIDNT THE US GOVT JUST DO THAT LAST WEEK???


another thing

especially since Palin spent the weekend and thru today talkign about it:

McCain had Obama on HIS floor in HIS format that he requested and not ONCE say CRAP about Ayres or Obama's 'questionable' associations?

and one last thing the MSM will pick apart

here is when McCain got unraveled

By the way, my friends, I know you grow a little weary with this back-and-forth. It was an energy bill on the floor of the Senate loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies, and it was sponsored by Bush and Cheney.

You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one. You know who voted against it? Me. I have fought time after time against these pork barrel -- these bills that come to the floor and they have all kinds of goodies and all kinds of things in them for everybody and they buy off the votes.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...al_debate.html

The black kid and his name: Who cares?

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac: He actually said that some of you may not have even heard of them BEFORE THIS CRISIS. See the difference?

Bailout: No, read about the bailout bill if you want an in depth explanation, but the bailout authorized the secretary to buy mortgage backed tradable securities (pseudo-bonds essentially) from banks, not to buy and renegotiate mortgage portfolios.

Ayers: He didn't bring it up because he was never planning to. He's upset that they're having to use negative campaigning and that's why he's having the ads and Palin do it rather than going after those points himself.

"That one": It didn't bother me at all, but I'm sure Obama's campaign will manage to stir plenty of fury about it up from the Obamaniacs. Obama could say the same thing and I wouldn't be bothered then either. "You know which of us voted for that? It wasn't me, it was that one." I don't see the cause for the outrage, who cares? "Which one?" "That one." Seems like a pretty reasonable flow for the comment to me, but I'm not hyper sensitive and whining about "Mean ol' John" like the Obama campaign has made one of their goals of the debate, so maybe I'm missing something.