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09-25-2008, 07:34 PM
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Ok, first, before I comment on part of this post, I want to ask why you didn't take off on KSigRC when he called voters "stupid" -- didn't you get on me about "the left" treating voters like they were stupid last week or so? Jeez, he flat out CALLED them stupid. 
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Because I don't entirely disagree with it, I just think it's dumb politics to tell voters you think so, either directly or by implying it.
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09-25-2008, 08:30 PM
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Because I don't entirely disagree with it, I just think it's dumb politics to tell voters you think so, either directly or by implying it. 
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LOL. Oh, ok, as long as you apply the judgment fairly. 
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09-25-2008, 09:00 PM
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So now I'm reading that congressional leaders are meeting again at 8:00 (which I guess means they are in meetings now) but that McCain went home at 5:00. (As did Obama, for the record.)
Now, bear in mind I don't think either of them need to be there. But why is McCain not making a point to be there, after all his drama about how vital his presence is? And why is he still not committed to the debate, when he is demonstrating tonight that he believes the process can continue without his direct input?
It's ridiculously hypocritical to me. Again, I personally don't think he needs to be in Washington (I think since he got there it's gotten worse), but if he is going to make a huge fuss about how he has to be present, how can he then not be there?
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09-25-2008, 09:29 PM
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So now I'm reading that congressional leaders are meeting again at 8:00 (which I guess means they are in meetings now) but that McCain went home at 5:00. (As did Obama, for the record.)
Now, bear in mind I don't think either of them need to be there. But why is McCain not making a point to be there, after all his drama about how vital his presence is? And why is he still not committed to the debate, when he is demonstrating tonight that he believes the process can continue without his direct input?
It's ridiculously hypocritical to me. Again, I personally don't think he needs to be in Washington (I think since he got there it's gotten worse), but if he is going to make a huge fuss about how he has to be present, how can he then not be there?
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I was wondering where you read that they went home at 5. That's interesting to me. Normally Drudge keeps me pretty up to date, but all I'm seeing is that they left the meeting when it ended (same as everybody else I presume) and that now Bernanke and Paulson are headed back to the Hill tonight with no mention of who they're meeting with. The Hill on the other hand says "All parties were expected to work into the night."
So I was just wondering where said that since apparently there is some contradictory information about what is going on.
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09-25-2008, 09:37 PM
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Sorry about that! It was on Politico. Jonathan Martin quoted a pool report that said that McCain left ABC at 5:46 and arrived home at 5:57. I just guessed he must have left at 5:00ish in order to be finished with his interviews 45 minutes later.
Then The Crypt at Politico said
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says all the main players -- Hank Paulson, Ben Bernanke, GOP and Democratic leaders from both house -- are meeting again at 8 p.m. to "put the train back on track."
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Ben Smith noted that neither Obama nor McCain were going to be at the 8:00 meeting.
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09-25-2008, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pbear19
So now I'm reading that congressional leaders are meeting again at 8:00 (which I guess means they are in meetings now) but that McCain went home at 5:00. (As did Obama, for the record.)
Now, bear in mind I don't think either of them need to be there. But why is McCain not making a point to be there, after all his drama about how vital his presence is? And why is he still not committed to the debate, when he is demonstrating tonight that he believes the process can continue without his direct input?
It's ridiculously hypocritical to me. Again, I personally don't think he needs to be in Washington (I think since he got there it's gotten worse), but if he is going to make a huge fuss about how he has to be present, how can he then not be there?
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pbear...my friend....
It's called FLIP FLOPPING....
And Cracka...you think I am an idiot? I have been called worse by better and face it.....I disagree with your assessment...
Until you can give me a sound rock solid reason why McCain needs to be here in DC and not ducking out Obama in something that McCain has wanted sooooo long...the only thing I can tell you is get over it and K.I.M.
Something to think about (totally out of left field mind you)
Could probably make a good ad
If McCain loses a home, how many more does he have to spare.....if Obama loses a home....is he homeless?
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09-25-2008, 09:45 PM
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pbear...my friend....
It's called FLIP FLOPPING....
And Cracka...you think I am an idiot? I have been called worse by better and face it.....I disagree with your assessment...
Until you can give me a sound rock solid reason why McCain needs to be here in DC and not ducking out Obama in something that McCain has wanted sooooo long...the only thing I can tell you is get over it and K.I.M.
Something to think about (totally out of left field mind you)
Could probably make a good ad
If McCain loses a home, how many more does he have to spare.....if Obama loses a home....is he homeless?
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I don't understand how it's ducking, he has said he hopes they can get a bill passed and have it Friday (I would bet they'll have it whether a bill passes or not, possibly in DC and move another debate later or the VP debate to Ole Miss) or reschedule it.
And I don't understand the outrage over Senators being in Washington during a crisis. Yeah, ok, Democrats are saying its hurting and Republicans say its helping, did you really expect a different response given that it's an election year and McCain suggested it? Flip who suggested it and Democrats would be praising it while Republicans yelled "get out of town".
And Obama wouldn't be homeless, he could spend the night next door at his buddy Rezko's since Phil won't need the house while he's in jail
ETA: And thanks PBear, I had looked at The Hill, but not Politico. Since they're apparently reporting opposite things, who knows what's going on.
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09-25-2008, 09:53 PM
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I don't understand how it's ducking, he has said he hopes they can get a bill passed and have it Friday (I would bet they'll have it whether a bill passes or not, possibly in DC and move another debate later or the VP debate to Ole Miss) or reschedule it.
And I don't understand the outrage over Senators being in Washington during a crisis. Yeah, ok, Democrats are saying its hurting and Republicans say its helping, did you really expect a different response given that it's an election year and McCain suggested it? Flip who suggested it and Democrats would be praising it while Republicans yelled "get out of town".
And Obama wouldn't be homeless, he could spend the night next door at his buddy Rezko's since Phil won't need the house while he's in jail
ETA: And thanks PBear, I had looked at The Hill, but not Politico. Since they're apparently reporting opposite things, who knows what's going on.
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it's the timing and the attention whoring....
Sidebar....dayum this rum is good!
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