Is Sarah Palin a sorority member?

[WarEagle07]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Either way, while in office/politics even such a shor time, she seems with her track record, she will not take crap from anyone.

Even if she is a very attractive women, she seems to have put a lot under her belt in her 44 years.

So, why not give credit due where it is due!

She damn sure cannot do any worse than what we have in D C now!

I agree! She won't take crap from other legislators, lobbyists, or foreign diplomats.
Just because she is from Alaska doesn't mean she is naive pushover. She has dealt with some of the most powerful lobbyists in the country as the governor of a state that is so rich in natural resources. She has stood strong against the big oil companies when every other governor before her had been bought out. Her state budget runs over 2.5 BILLION dollars!! Compare that with Arizona at 1.9 billion, Alabama at 784 million, and Illinois at 1.8 billion. If she was governor of any of these states she wouldn't be facing half the criticism that she is because of the false notion that Alaska is nothing compared every other state.

And just so this doesn't get deleted.... Sarah Palin was not in a sorority.

[nittanyalum]

I assumed the posts taken out of here were merged into the McCain's Running Mate thread -- no, huh? Well that does really suck then.

[awkward1]

^^Not that I can see.......

[pbear19]

No merge, just random, unwarranted deletes. I've had posts deleted before because they were part of a hot discussion, but never because they were off topic. I'm actually quite pissed about it. There was absolutely no reason to delete my posts, and others, while leaving up posts that were equally off topic both in this thread and in others.

It was incredibly arbitrary and petty.

[oldu]

Of the four candidates for president and vice-president, only John McCain attended an institution where there were no fraternities or sororities. The fact that NONE of the other three chose to join a fraternity or sorority, is very discouraging. Especially, since one of our strongest arguments for joining our organzations is LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT. I hope this is not a trend, but I suspect it is.

Originally Posted by oldu

Of the four candidates for president and vice-president, only John McCain attended an institution where there were no fraternities or sororities. The fact that NONE of the other three chose to join a fraternity or sorority, is very discouraging. Especially, since one of our strongest arguments for joining our organzations is LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT. I hope this is not a trend, but I suspect it is.

How do we know that they didn't try? What if they did, but for some reason was not extended a bid?

We tell bidless PNMs that there are still many ways to get involved on campus. I was in leadership positions before I joined my sorority as a junior. You don't have to be Greek to possess leadership qualities.

Being Greek isn't a requirement to get my vote.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by oldu

Of the four candidates for president and vice-president, only John McCain attended an institution where there were no fraternities or sororities. The fact that NONE of the other three chose to join a fraternity or sorority, is very discouraging. Especially, since one of our strongest arguments for joining our organzations is LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT. I hope this is not a trend, but I suspect it is.

I think the other 3 have all made clear that they worked hard to get themselves into college and worked hard to get themselves through college, paying for it on their own. I don't think it's that unusual that for students in their situation, joining and paying for a GLO wasn't their top priority and I don't take it as a positive or a negative that they weren't in a greek org. I'm not sure why that's such a "must have" in your book, there are plenty of other LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT opportunities in college, greek life doesn't own the corner on that one.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by oldu

The fact that NONE of the other three chose to join a fraternity or sorority, is very discouraging. Especially, since one of our strongest arguments for joining our organzations is LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT. I hope this is not a trend, but I suspect it is.

Yeah because we all know the way to judge whether someone is worthy of running our country is whether they joined a fraternity or sorority

I wouldn't vote for someone just because they went Greek. Not everyone who "goes Greek" is a leader.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by oldu

The fact that NONE of the other three chose to join a fraternity or sorority, is very discouraging.

Wow! Personally, I'd rank GLO affiliation at around 12,098 on my list of concerns for our Presidential and VP candidates.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by oldu

Of the four candidates for president and vice-president, only John McCain attended an institution where there were no fraternities or sororities. The fact that NONE of the other three chose to join a fraternity or sorority, is very discouraging. Especially, since one of our strongest arguments for joining our organzations is LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT. I hope this is not a trend, but I suspect it is.

SO WHAT?

Just because 3/4 Pres/VP candidates aren't greek does not mean GLO's are doing a crappy job of churning out leaders. People have other avenues of LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT. It's not like GLO's are the end-all, be-all of leaders. There are plenty of leaders in the world in different areas that chose not to go Greek. There's nothing wrong with that.

On the same note, being a ABC fraternity/sorority member doesn't automatically mean you will be a leader. There are many members who go on to living normal, Average Joe lives and others who become extraordinary people in their respective fields. Maybe it was because of something they learned while being a ABC member or maybe it was just something they already had in them.

Even if this Sarah lady was my own sorority sister, that doesn't mean jack. It just means she happened to join the same sorority as me. I don't care whether or not someone is Greek when I am consdering how I am going to vote, so why again does this matter?

[Senusret I]

I dunno, oldu.... I don't think it's that discouraging. I think it's representative of the eras in which they were collegians.

I think once people who went to college in the 90s and 00s start running for office, we will find that the majority of them will be Greeks.

[Leslie Anne]

I agree with your second suggestion, Janerz222. Oldu's comment seems to suggest that an end of an era has come.

I don't think that's entirely accurate though. Part of what I believe breathesgelatin was pointing out is that we're coming into a time when many Americans who are seeking elective office happen to have gone to college during the 60s and 70s. It's been debated but I'm one of those who believe that those two decades were a low point in Greek affiliation. The 1980s, however, were a high point. I think we might just be going into a bit of a dip.

There are reasons why there will probably never be a full recovery though. Again, as breathesgelatin suggested, we're entering an era that is more accepting of non-WASPs being in power. Although I tend to think this is a good think, I'd agree that this is what has oldu so discouraged.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

I agree with your second suggestion, Janerz222. Oldu's comment seems to suggest that an end of an era has come.

We don't know that for sure. For all we know all 4 might be in GLO's come 2012 and again in 2016 and again in 2020.

I haven't been keeping track of who's been in GLO's for the last 100 yrs because I don't have that kind of time on my hands, but really, it doesn't make sense to say "the end of an era has come" or that there was even an era to begin with.

Maybe oldu can go through the numbers and post a thread about Pres/VP greek affiliations so we can determine the best IFC fraternity by the one who has the most Pres/VP nominations !!!

Tons of young adults are enrolled in college every year, but the vast majority of them probably do not elect to join a GLO, or maybe, like OTW pointed out, they did try, but were not given bids. This doesn't make them bad people and it doesn't mean they will never gain leadership experience.

[Army Wife'79]

I guess this is the real version of the tv show "The Secret Life of the American Teenager".

[I.C. a Pi Phi]

What pray tell does this latest turn of posts have ANYTHING to do with a Greek Forum? If your parents are Greek you won't become a teenage mother?

Can we please close this thread or move it to the off topic forum? I don't see what any of these past few posts have to do with "Greek Life".