Alabama Recruitment Prediction (Fall 2008)

[Loyally Kappa]

Originally Posted by bamazta

I know some of you are going to think this is a crazy question but what do they mean by old row at Alabama?

Old Row is Colonial Drive ... the newer houses are the next street over.

Houses on Old Row are Phi Mu, Kappa Kappa Gamma, Alpha Chi Omega, Alpha Omicron Pi, and Kappa Alpha Theta.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa

Old Row is Colonial Drive ... the newer houses are the next street over.

Houses on Old Row are Phi Mu, Kappa Kappa Gamma, Alpha Chi Omega, Alpha Omicron Pi, and Kappa Alpha Theta.

I thought Alpha Gam was old row and First Circle.

[Loyally Kappa]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I thought Alpha Gam was old row and First Circle.

Now, I did my undergrad at Florida and simply teach here now ... but you are correct in Alpha Gam was there originally. Apparently, when they enlarged the stadium, the KD house and Alpha Gam house were moved ... the Tri-Delts chose to build a new house ... I think. I merely mentioned the only surviving houses.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa

Now, I did my undergrad at Florida and simply teach here now ... but you are correct in Alpha Gam was there originally. Apparently, when they enlarged the stadium, the KD house and Alpha Gam house were moved ... the Tri-Delts chose to build a new house ... I think. I merely mentioned the only surviving houses.

No...KD, Alpha Gam and DDD are in the houses they've been in for decades. Pi Beta Phi moved...the others on the row folded long before.
"Old Row" does not mean the age of the house. It's a status thing. Read the thread and post that OTW referenced, please.

[Loyally Kappa]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

No...KD, Alpha Gam and DDD are in the houses they've been in for decades. Pi Beta Phi moved...the others on the row folded long before.
"Old Row" does not mean the age of the house. It's a status thing. Read the thread and post that OTW referenced, pleased.

Gotcha ... so THAT'S why my daughter's Tri-Delt dues are so much higher? You see, I was a Kappa at UF and "know" that their house at UA is old ... learn something new every day!

Thanks, toots!

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa

Now, I did my undergrad at Florida and simply teach here now ... but you are correct in Alpha Gam was there originally. Apparently, when they enlarged the stadium, the KD house and Alpha Gam house were moved ... the Tri-Delts chose to build a new house ... I think. I merely mentioned the only surviving houses.

I don't think it's a purely geographic distinction. I think it has more to do with how long groups have been at Alabama.

While the street is certainly still described as being the old row, a group can move and still be an old row group, I think.

[ua70s]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I don't think it's a purely geographic distinction. I think it has more to do with how long groups have been at Alabama.

While the street is certainly still described as being the old row, a group can move and still be an old row group, I think.

When I attended UA..."Old Row" referred to the fraternities more than sororities. Old Row is University Blvd. fraternities that include SAE, which was founded at UofA, and other historically "southern" frats. New Row is/was Jefferson Ave. fraternities.

Old Row sororities would include 6-7 sororities having long standing chapters at UofA, but geographic location has nothing to do with it...as I knew it waaaay back then.

[BamaPike]

Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa

Old Row is Colonial Drive ... the newer houses are the next street over.

Houses on Old Row are Phi Mu, Kappa Kappa Gamma, Alpha Chi Omega, Alpha Omicron Pi, and Kappa Alpha Theta.

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I thought Alpha Gam was old row and First Circle.

Old Row really is really meaningless as it is a fairly arbritrary designation. Alpha Gam, KD, Tri-Delt, Kappa, ChiO and Phi Mu are considered by most to be "Old Row" with AOPi and Alpha Chi are included quite a bit. This throws location out as these houses are on both streets of sorority row. Also, ADPi, which is the second oldest house on campus, was never considered "Old Row" when I was in school but AOPi, which was one of the newer houses, was. You can probably see why I see it as a fairly arbirtrary designation since age nor location have nothing to do with it.

Clarification: By age, I mean the length of time each chapter has been in existence at Alabama. NOT the age of the physical house.

[AOII BAMA MOM]

Originally Posted by BamaPike

Old Row really is really meaningless as it is a fairly arbritrary designation. Alpha Gam, KD, Tri-Delt, Kappa, ChiO and Phi Mu are considered by most to be "Old Row" with AOPi and Alpha Chi are included quite a bit. This throws location out as these houses are on both streets of sorority row. Also, ADPi, which is the second oldest house on campus, was never considered "Old Row" when I was in school but AOPi, which was one of the newer houses, was. You can probably see why I see it as a fairly arbirtrary designation since age nor location have nothing to do with it.

Clarification: By age, I mean the length of time each chapter has been in existence at Alabama. NOT the age of the physical house.

That is very interesting--I never knew that about AOPi

[UGAalum94]

[shaking my first at the Alabama Panhellenic site]

Well, I've wasted another day hovering on GreekChat waiting for recruitment information. I'm giving up for the day which means the list will be posted in the next ten minutes. [/shaking of fist]

[bamadz]

I was an DZ at UA and Phi Mu was not considered "Old Row" while I was there 95-00. I was always told that they wanted to be considered "Old Row" and that DZ was asked to be apart of the so-called "Old Row" cliche, but refused it.

[estherjb]

Here's the answer I got on last year's Bama thread. There was some debate about who was part of the group. I saw some longer lists and some the same size but with different names.

"As far as old row, I thought at Alabama that included Kappa Kappa Gamma, Kappa Delta, Chi Omega, Tri-Delt, & Alpha Gamma Delta. My hubby reminded me that Alpha Chi Omega & Phi Mu are or were sometimes considered Old Row (back in school when we were both there) as well!

We all jokingly said it was whomever was invited to Lake Party that year. Ha Ha!"

You Bama folks would know what Lake Party is.

[ua70s]

We all jokingly said it was whomever was invited to Lake Party that year. Ha Ha!"

You Bama folks would know what Lake Party is.[/quote]

I do remember what Lake Party is/was!!! Is that showing my age?! Do they still even have that party? Your list of sororities is dead on with the inclusion of the last two at the party....what a memory! They were even listed on the Lake Party t-shirt we all got.

[BamaPike]

Originally Posted by estherjb

Here's the answer I got on last year's Bama thread. There was some debate about who was part of the group. I saw some longer lists and some the same size but with different names.

"As far as old row, I thought at Alabama that included Kappa Kappa Gamma, Kappa Delta, Chi Omega, Tri-Delt, & Alpha Gamma Delta. My hubby reminded me that Alpha Chi Omega & Phi Mu are or were sometimes considered Old Row (back in school when we were both there) as well!

We all jokingly said it was whomever was invited to Lake Party that year. Ha Ha!"

You Bama folks would know what Lake Party is.

I'm a Bama Pike alum, obviously, and we were even in on a couple of the Old Row lake parties and Pikes are definitely not Old Row. However, our new house will be on University Blvd so maybe we'll be asked back.

[BamaPike]

Originally Posted by estherjb

You Bama folks would know what Lake Party is.

I definitely know what a Lake Party is and attended quite a few. Question to the rest of you Bama alums, who actually attended a Lake Party that was actually on a lake?