Taxes and Candidates?

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Dude, it was an email forward. It HAS to be accurate.

Yes it was a forward email so that makes it in error or wrong?

So people who find things cannot pass them along?

I am not saying it is correct, it is something to think about!

If you do not accept it that is fine, but just a thought process to expand yourselves!

I want my vote to count!

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Yes it was a forward email so that makes it in error or wrong?

So people who find things cannot pass them along?

I am not saying it is correct, it is something to think about!

If you do not accept it that is fine, but just a thought process to expand yourselves!

I want my vote to count!

Well, as a forward, it's probably wrong. Especially when the numbers are so out of whack.

There are plenty of things to think about in the election. I just prefer to get my information from more reliable sources (like candidates' websites, reports in the media, media experts, and friends I have working for the campaigns).

[preciousjeni]

Don't know how y'all feel about Business Week but:

McCain's tax cuts would help those with very high incomes; Obama would offer breaks to low- and middle-income earners and increase the burden on the rich

http://www.businessweek.com/investor...ndex_top+story

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Don't know how y'all feel about Business Week but:



http://www.businessweek.com/investor...ndex_top+story

That's a typical Liberal Democrat method of rebalancing the scale and finding an alternative to redistributing wealth (which can't be done under this capitalism, anyway).

He's just reversing the wealthfare that's been going on for decades. This shouldn't be seen as a punishment to the wealthy or the rich (who aren't always one in the same). They should think of it as an ongoing charity ball, which we all know are wonderful.

And, no, you don't have to be of the NONwealthy or the NONrich to feel that this is a good idea. You have to be able to see the world through a more objective lens and through the lens of others.

[Tom Earp]

Nope a conservative.

But my post must have been in error.

Well I guess the vote will tell won't it?

So, I guess pee off will suffice if some do not like my post and that is fine!

Oh, I wonder if this will get me banned again?

[jon1856]

Nothing wrong with your post Tom at all.
Just:
1) The facts within it.
2) That you have been advised before to check your facts before sending
"forwards" to anyone.
3) That you sent out a false "urban legend".
4) You have been asked to download the spell check and to use it. I know I suggested that to you at least once before. If I did not use it, my own posts would look a great deal worse than they already do.
But I do have to wonder,every so often, if your posting style is all an act.

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Nope a conservative.

But my post must have been in error.

Well I guess the vote will tell won't it?

So, I guess pee off will suffice if some do not like my post and that is fine!

Oh, I wonder if this will get me banned again?

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Oh, I wonder if this will get me banned again?

Get over it.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Nope a conservative.

But my post must have been in error.

Well I guess the vote will tell won't it?

So, I guess pee off will suffice if some do not like my post and that is fine!

Oh, I wonder if this will get me banned again?

If this doesn't, your asking for opinions from "N-land" in the other dumbass thread you started should. You moron.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by jon1856

But I do have to wonder,every so often, if your posting style is all an act.

Many have wondered that.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That's a typical Liberal Democrat method of rebalancing the scale and finding an alternative to redistributing wealth (which can't be done under this capitalism, anyway).

He's just reversing the wealthfare that's been going on for decades. This shouldn't be seen as a punishment to the wealthy or the rich (who aren't always one in the same). They should think of it as an ongoing charity ball, which we all know are wonderful.

And, no, you don't have to be of the NONwealthy or the NONrich to feel that this is a good idea. You have to be able to see the world through a more objective lens and through the lens of others.

I agree with everything you've said. Perhaps it was the title I quoted that prompted this post? The reality is that Obama's tax plan will more significantly impact the wealthy/rich, but I don't believe that's a bad thing.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Yes it was a forward email so that makes it in error or wrong?

Haven't you been asked to stop cleaning out your damn inbox on this board?

Whatever the real numbers are, YES taxes will need to increase in order to level the playing field (including "middle class Americans" who had more income than wealth and are struggling in this recession) and invest in social programs.

NO this is not ridiculous or unheard of. If Americans only knew what our tax dollars were being wasted on every year, the smart ones would be thrilled to invest in something that actually HELPED its citizens and invested in the future. And I'm talking the average citizen. Not the top 3% or the hoitytoity Americans who confuse coming from generations of wealth with actually having WORKED/EARNED for it themselves.

This isn't about Politics: Obama, McCain, Democrat, or Republican. They can all go to hell, as far as I'm concerned. What it is about is Americans knowing what's going on around them and knowing that stuff isn't FREE. Hell, we invest in domestic and global capitalism so why not invest in the overall wellbeing of our nation?

Woooooooooosaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh....

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Haven't you been asked to stop cleaning out your damn inbox on this board?

Whatever the real numbers are, YES taxes will need to increase in order to level the playing field (including "middle class Americans" who had more income than wealth and are struggling in this recession) and invest in social programs.

NO this is not ridiculous or unheard of. If Americans only knew what our tax dollars were being wasted on every year, the smart ones would be thrilled to invest in something that actually HELPED its citizens and invested in the future. And I'm talking the average citizen. Not the top 3% or the hoitytoity Americans who confuse coming from generations of wealth with actually having WORKED/EARNED for it themselves.

This isn't about Politics: Obama, McCain, Democrat, or Republican. They can all go to hell, as far as I'm concerned. What it is about is Americans knowing what's going on around them and knowing that stuff isn't FREE. Hell, we invest in domestic and global capitalism so why not invest in the overall wellbeing of our nation?

Woooooooooosaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh....

I can see what you're saying, there's a lot of ridiculous spending going on out there, no question.

But, it's not just the top 3% or the hoitytoity who want a stop to the over-spending or who believe in some sort of financial conservatism. There are a lot of us who grew up in lower-middle class households (like myself) who also hold those beliefs. Some of us think that private industry can take up some of these costs, and that the investment in domestic and global capitalism helps in that way.

Either way you feel, it's a big topic that's not adequately covered by email forwards...

And Tom - I'm guessing the offensive remarks in other threads will get you banned faster than posting forwards.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

But, it's not just the top 3% or the hoitytoity who want a stop to the over-spending or who believe in some sort of financial conservatism. There are a lot of us who grew up in lower-middle class households (like myself) who also hold those beliefs.

You misinterpreted my post or I didn't convey the point clearly.

I wasn't talking about over-spending and financial conservatism when I referenced the top 3% and the hoitytoity. I was talking about the fact that these social programs are designed as safety nets for* those who are not of the top 3% or who come from generations of wealth (which isn't the same thing as "hoitytoity" unless you have a sense of entitlement (often for money that you didn't work for yourself) that translates to your views on certain social policies). These people represent the minority but are the majority in terms of power.

* Of course, technically, social programs are available to all citizens but there tend to be maximum income requirements, etc.

ETA: And I only included those two categories because there's a HUGE difference wealth and income. I should've included the wealthy who don't come from generations of wealth. Anyway, a lot of people confuse living comfortably and affording certain luxuries with having a safety net in times of recession. Families don't invest or build wealth. They accumulate debt because they overestimate their income's worth. That goes for folks making 60K and folks making 200K who aren't putting money away in investments and wealth-building assets.

[jon1856]

Tom, Tom, Tom......
"What is wrong with it?" you ask.
Tom, read the link from Snopes.com or pick any other urban legion Web site you care to locate (I do not have my personal list handy or I would send it to you)
The whole point of these "e-mail to everyone you know" is to send and help spread some sort of usually false rumor.
If not crime related, it is politics.
If not about some sort of charity, it is about a celebrity.
The lists, just on snopes goes on on on.
If you would like my personal list (which I may have posted on GC at some point-could be in web sites thread)-let me know.
ETA-found an old posting here. I may have update mine but any of this should work for you Tom.
Please make use of them before you send anyone else any more of your e-mails:
About com/Urban Legends, Folklore & Myths:
http://www.snopes.com
http://urbanlegends.about.com
http://kumite.com/myths/
http://truthorfiction.com/
http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Yes it was a forward email so that makes it in error or wrong?

So people who find things cannot pass them along?

I am not saying it is correct, it is something to think about!

If you do not accept it that is fine, but just a thought process to expand yourselves!

I want my vote to count!