Taxes and Candidates?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Yes it was a forward email so that makes it in error or wrong?

Haven't you been asked to stop cleaning out your damn inbox on this board?

Whatever the real numbers are, YES taxes will need to increase in order to level the playing field (including "middle class Americans" who had more income than wealth and are struggling in this recession) and invest in social programs.

NO this is not ridiculous or unheard of. If Americans only knew what our tax dollars were being wasted on every year, the smart ones would be thrilled to invest in something that actually HELPED its citizens and invested in the future. And I'm talking the average citizen. Not the top 3% or the hoitytoity Americans who confuse coming from generations of wealth with actually having WORKED/EARNED for it themselves.

This isn't about Politics: Obama, McCain, Democrat, or Republican. They can all go to hell, as far as I'm concerned. What it is about is Americans knowing what's going on around them and knowing that stuff isn't FREE. Hell, we invest in domestic and global capitalism so why not invest in the overall wellbeing of our nation?

Woooooooooosaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh....

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Haven't you been asked to stop cleaning out your damn inbox on this board?

Whatever the real numbers are, YES taxes will need to increase in order to level the playing field (including "middle class Americans" who had more income than wealth and are struggling in this recession) and invest in social programs.

NO this is not ridiculous or unheard of. If Americans only knew what our tax dollars were being wasted on every year, the smart ones would be thrilled to invest in something that actually HELPED its citizens and invested in the future. And I'm talking the average citizen. Not the top 3% or the hoitytoity Americans who confuse coming from generations of wealth with actually having WORKED/EARNED for it themselves.

This isn't about Politics: Obama, McCain, Democrat, or Republican. They can all go to hell, as far as I'm concerned. What it is about is Americans knowing what's going on around them and knowing that stuff isn't FREE. Hell, we invest in domestic and global capitalism so why not invest in the overall wellbeing of our nation?

Woooooooooosaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh....

I can see what you're saying, there's a lot of ridiculous spending going on out there, no question.

But, it's not just the top 3% or the hoitytoity who want a stop to the over-spending or who believe in some sort of financial conservatism. There are a lot of us who grew up in lower-middle class households (like myself) who also hold those beliefs. Some of us think that private industry can take up some of these costs, and that the investment in domestic and global capitalism helps in that way.

Either way you feel, it's a big topic that's not adequately covered by email forwards...

And Tom - I'm guessing the offensive remarks in other threads will get you banned faster than posting forwards.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

But, it's not just the top 3% or the hoitytoity who want a stop to the over-spending or who believe in some sort of financial conservatism. There are a lot of us who grew up in lower-middle class households (like myself) who also hold those beliefs.

You misinterpreted my post or I didn't convey the point clearly.

I wasn't talking about over-spending and financial conservatism when I referenced the top 3% and the hoitytoity. I was talking about the fact that these social programs are designed as safety nets for* those who are not of the top 3% or who come from generations of wealth (which isn't the same thing as "hoitytoity" unless you have a sense of entitlement (often for money that you didn't work for yourself) that translates to your views on certain social policies). These people represent the minority but are the majority in terms of power.

* Of course, technically, social programs are available to all citizens but there tend to be maximum income requirements, etc.

ETA: And I only included those two categories because there's a HUGE difference wealth and income. I should've included the wealthy who don't come from generations of wealth. Anyway, a lot of people confuse living comfortably and affording certain luxuries with having a safety net in times of recession. Families don't invest or build wealth. They accumulate debt because they overestimate their income's worth. That goes for folks making 60K and folks making 200K who aren't putting money away in investments and wealth-building assets.