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07-16-2008, 08:21 PM
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I guess I need to elaborate. I didn't write on the form why I didn't recommend the woman, and I wasn't contacted about her either. It is likely that she had made her feelings about certain chapters known when she was hanging with the fratties, and even if she wasn't saying it to or about those women, saying nasty things about other chapters as a PNM is a really tacky move.
There were also some other circumstances that likely affected her recruitment but I would only speak of my personal interaction.
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07-16-2008, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel
I guess I need to elaborate. I didn't write on the form why I didn't recommend the woman, and I wasn't contacted about her either. It is likely that she had made her feelings about certain chapters known when she was hanging with the fratties, and even if she wasn't saying it to or about those women, saying nasty things about other chapters as a PNM is a really tacky move.
There were also some other circumstances that likely affected her recruitment but I would only speak of my personal interaction.
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Generally, if a person was bad mouthing a chapter around campus, I wouldn't think you'd need to say on the form why you didn't recommend her.
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07-16-2008, 09:10 PM
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I wrote my one and only No Rec last year.
I taught CCD (Religious Ed) for many years, and consequently I've written a lot of recs for former students. About 5 years ago, I had the world's biggest trouble maker in my class. On the surface, she seemed like a nice girl. In reality, though - woah. Spoke out of turn, got up and walked out of class, and stole from one of her classmate's purses (class was at Mass, and she asked the Aide for permission to go back to the room. The Aide agreed, followed her, and nailed her). The kicker is that I caught her cheating on our Confirmation test. Needless to say, she wasn't confirmed.
From what I heard and saw, 4 years didn't improve her any. While she has good grades and decent activities, she still has a problem with her mouth, and often "forgets" to pay for items she takes home from the mall. Last spring I get a call from her mom who says her darling daughter wants me to write her a XO Rec. I agreed. I just didn't tell her I'd be writing a No Rec rather than a positive one.
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07-16-2008, 09:13 PM
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I wrote my one and only No Rec last year.
I taught CCD (Religious Ed) for many years, and consequently I've written a lot of recs for former students. About 5 years ago, I had the world's biggest trouble maker in my class. On the surface, she seemed like a nice girl. In reality, though - woah. Spoke out of turn, got up and walked out of class, and stole from one of her classmate's purses (class was at Mass, and she asked the Aide for permission to go back to the room. The Aide agreed, followed her, and nailed her). The kicker is that I caught her cheating on our Confirmation test. Needless to say, she wasn't confirmed.
From what I heard and saw, 4 years didn't improve her any. While she has good grades and decent activities, she still has a problem with her mouth, and often "forgets" to pay for items she takes home from the mall. Last spring I get a call from her mom who says her darling daughter wants me to write her a XO Rec. I agreed. I just didn't tell her I'd be writing a No Rec rather than a positive one.
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Wicked. Who knew you could flunk out of confirmation classes?
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07-16-2008, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chitownxo
I wrote my one and only No Rec last year.
I taught CCD (Religious Ed) for many years, and consequently I've written a lot of recs for former students. About 5 years ago, I had the world's biggest trouble maker in my class. On the surface, she seemed like a nice girl. In reality, though - woah. Spoke out of turn, got up and walked out of class, and stole from one of her classmate's purses (class was at Mass, and she asked the Aide for permission to go back to the room. The Aide agreed, followed her, and nailed her). The kicker is that I caught her cheating on our Confirmation test. Needless to say, she wasn't confirmed.
From what I heard and saw, 4 years didn't improve her any. While she has good grades and decent activities, she still has a problem with her mouth, and often "forgets" to pay for items she takes home from the mall. Last spring I get a call from her mom who says her darling daughter wants me to write her a XO Rec. I agreed. I just didn't tell her I'd be writing a No Rec rather than a positive one.
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I'm wondering how her mother could think you would write a good rec considering you flunked her out of catachism class?!
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07-17-2008, 09:32 AM
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I'm wondering how her mother could think you would write a good rec considering you flunked her out of catachism class?!
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No one in that family is too bright. I guess she thought that since I've written recs for other people....
You have to work pretty hard to get booted from CCD, not to mention flunking the Confirmation test. We do everything but force feed them the answers, and some of the questions are softballs (eg "What is the name of our Parish?"). We're not talking brain surgery here.
She didn't get a bid last year, so she's gearing up for try #2.
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07-17-2008, 11:19 PM
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Even if CCD Flunkie gets lucky enough to pledge this time, I'd hate to be her NM educator--gotta wonder how she'll do on those quizzes.
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07-19-2008, 01:50 PM
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Pros and cons
Coming from a school (Penn State) that doesn't rely heavily on recs, and a sorority that doesn't have the same huge national alum network that other, larger sororities do, I have very little experience with recs (either writing them or using them), and I'm of two minds about them.
On one hand, getting "no" recs might have saved us from one of two psychos. But probably not; sociopaths can be great "social engineers".
On the other hand, one PNM had been a year behind me in high school, and was a total stoner. Not a bad girl, no arrest record, just a dirty jeans, band-t-shirt and too-much-eyeliner stoner. She looked really cute at rush, though, and she approached me and told me she had "changed a lot" since then. Since I completely understood what boredom could drive you to do, I said nothing, she was a big hit with everyone, and became a really stellar member of the sorority and ended up as a successful lawyer.
It would have sucked if someone from our town had written a "no" rec just because the PNM was bored in high school. Plus she had the HS grades to make it to Main Campus her freshman year. Also, keep in mind that it was the same years portrayed in "Dazed and Confused" and "That Seventies Show", so the entire culture was different back then. (Yikes -- did I really just date myself like that?)
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