Obama effectively clinches nomination

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

That might be the plan.

And the economy is in such great shape now?

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by jon1856

And the economy is in such great shape now?

First, this is a terrible argument for why I should vote for Barack Obama. Wealth redistribution, higher taxes and increased regulation aren't what I think America needs to rebuild the economy.

Second, at least we're retaining the appearance of capitalism. Enterprise economic systems fluctuate. I'm ok with that.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

First, this is a terrible argument for why I should vote for Barack Obama. Wealth redistribution, higher taxes and increased regulation aren't what I think America needs to rebuild the economy.

Second, at least we're retaining the appearance of capitalism. Enterprise economic systems fluctuate. I'm ok with that.

I am not arguing the point of who to vote for.
I was just commenting on the current state of the economy.
Over the past 8 years.
And I have very little problem with those making a great deal of money paying a fair share of taxes back. And some guy named Buffet seems to think like that as well.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by jon1856

I am not arguing the point of who to vote for.
I was just commenting on the current state of the economy.
Over the past 8 years.
And I have very little problem with those making a great deal of money paying a fair share of taxes back. And some guy named Buffet seems to think like that as well.

There's a difference between it being voluntary and forced (see: Socialism.)

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by jon1856

I am not arguing the point of who to vote for.
I was just commenting on the current state of the economy.
Over the past 8 years.
And I have very little problem with those making a great deal of money paying a fair share of taxes back. And some guy named Buffet seems to think like that as well.

We probably have different views on what is "fair." Also, though I respect Warren, I don't really care about his views on taxation.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

We probably have different views on what is "fair." Also, though I respect Warren, I don't really care about his views on taxation.

Ok-fine.
I can not speak for you, but I know that I am no where near the top 1%..
Perhaps 10%

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Ok-fine.
I can not speak for you, but I know that I am no where near the top 1%..
Perhaps 10%

I don't know that someone's current wealth position always has a direct correlation to their feelings on tax policy. I'm certainly not top 1%, but I agree more with Shiner's position.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I don't know that someone's current wealth position always has a direct correlation to their feelings on tax policy. I'm certainly not top 1%, but I agree more with Shiner's position.

We perhaps should start a thread on tax and end this hi-jack.

[a.e.B.O.T.]

Does anyone think that Obama HAS to choose Clinton now? She has said she will consider the spot... MEANING, if she doesn't get it after winning the popular vote... the Clinton-ites will go from livid to psycho She forced Obama to give it to her now.

Personally, I really think Obama should choose Kathleen Sebelius. It will help him fill his weakness. She has been a vocal supporter of his. She is a strong woman who could hopefully attract the Clinton-ites... AND she is not scary!!!

[shinerbock]

Barack doesn't need a woman, he needs a white male. If I was running his campaign, I'd suggest Evan Bayh.

As for taxation, all Barack is telling me is that he won't make an unfair tax system more unfair to most. I'm not impressed. That is, if I'm to believe him.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by a.e.B.O.T.

Does anyone think that Obama HAS to choose Clinton now? She has said she will consider the spot... MEANING, if she doesn't get it after winning the popular vote... the Clinton-ites will go from livid to psycho She forced Obama to give it to her now.

Personally, I really think Obama should choose Kathleen Sebelius. It will help him fill his weakness. She has been a vocal supporter of his. She is a strong woman who could hopefully attract the Clinton-ites... AND she is not scary!!!

Has too-No.
On a list-perhaps yes.
Have heard Kathleen's name in other conversations. She should definitely be on The A List.
I think a few former Generals could/should be on list as well.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by a.e.B.O.T.

Does anyone think that Obama HAS to choose Clinton now? She has said she will consider the spot... MEANING, if she doesn't get it after winning the popular vote... the Clinton-ites will go from livid to psycho She forced Obama to give it to her now.

Personally, I really think Obama should choose Kathleen Sebelius. It will help him fill his weakness. She has been a vocal supporter of his. She is a strong woman who could hopefully attract the Clinton-ites... AND she is not scary!!!

See my earlier post. If he selects that shrill vindictive bitch, then he will be seen as weak and the Clinton era of lies, deceit, and liberal entitlement will continue.

Oh damn, maybe I should just go on and admit that I'm slowly becoming Republican. Those damn taxes do it to me every time...

He needs a white male from the South, or maybe the Rust Belt.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

First, this is a terrible argument for why I should vote for Barack Obama. Wealth redistribution, higher taxes and increased regulation aren't what I think America needs to rebuild the economy.

Second, at least we're retaining the appearance of capitalism. Enterprise economic systems fluctuate. I'm ok with that.

I would have been OK with Hillary's plan which would have raised taxes for big earners back to 39% but Obama's "change" is going to bankrupt this country should he ever make it to the white house.