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Old 06-04-2008, 09:24 AM
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And you're saying that because you think Obama will give McCain a run for his money? Or because you supported Hillary? I thought you were a conservative lobbyist or something along those lines?
Saying it because I don't understand how Americans have let this happen.

Yes, I'm in a GOP lobbying firm and I do support McCain, but I can fathom the idea of Hillary running the country. And while I don't like her or her politics, I don't think she'd be a global disaster for the US the same way I think Obama could be.

He's a FANTASTIC, top of the line speaker but the man's hardly ready to be Commander-in-Chief and President and his politics would destroy our economy in my opinion...

Oh well, let the battle begin I suppose.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:40 AM
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Saying it because I don't understand how Americans have let this happen.

Yes, I'm in a GOP lobbying firm and I do support McCain, but I can fathom the idea of Hillary running the country. And while I don't like her or her politics, I don't think she'd be a global disaster for the US the same way I think Obama could be.

He's a FANTASTIC, top of the line speaker but the man's hardly ready to be Commander-in-Chief and President and his politics would destroy our economy in my opinion...

Oh well, let the battle begin I suppose.
That might be the plan.
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:24 AM
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I wish the vindictive, shrill bitch would just go on and quit. No one wants her as VP. In fact, I'm still undecided at this point, but if she is Obama's running mate, I'm going McCain all the way. I don't want that woman and her dirtbag husband anywhere near the White House.
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:32 AM
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I wish the vindictive, shrill bitch would just go on and quit. No one wants her as VP. In fact, I'm still undecided at this point, but if she is Obama's running mate, I'm going McCain all the way. I don't want that woman and her dirtbag husband anywhere near the White House.
Word, word, wordy mc word. If he picks her (or should I say is forced to pick her) he'll never have a chance of winning.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:11 AM
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That might be the plan.
And the economy is in such great shape now?
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:27 AM
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And the economy is in such great shape now?

First, this is a terrible argument for why I should vote for Barack Obama. Wealth redistribution, higher taxes and increased regulation aren't what I think America needs to rebuild the economy.

Second, at least we're retaining the appearance of capitalism. Enterprise economic systems fluctuate. I'm ok with that.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:33 AM
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First, this is a terrible argument for why I should vote for Barack Obama. Wealth redistribution, higher taxes and increased regulation aren't what I think America needs to rebuild the economy.

Second, at least we're retaining the appearance of capitalism. Enterprise economic systems fluctuate. I'm ok with that.
I am not arguing the point of who to vote for.
I was just commenting on the current state of the economy.
Over the past 8 years.
And I have very little problem with those making a great deal of money paying a fair share of taxes back. And some guy named Buffet seems to think like that as well.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:35 AM
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I am not arguing the point of who to vote for.
I was just commenting on the current state of the economy.
Over the past 8 years.
And I have very little problem with those making a great deal of money paying a fair share of taxes back. And some guy named Buffet seems to think like that as well.
There's a difference between it being voluntary and forced (see: Socialism.)
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:58 AM
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I am not arguing the point of who to vote for.
I was just commenting on the current state of the economy.
Over the past 8 years.
And I have very little problem with those making a great deal of money paying a fair share of taxes back. And some guy named Buffet seems to think like that as well.
We probably have different views on what is "fair." Also, though I respect Warren, I don't really care about his views on taxation.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:40 PM
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We probably have different views on what is "fair." Also, though I respect Warren, I don't really care about his views on taxation.
Ok-fine.
I can not speak for you, but I know that I am no where near the top 1%..
Perhaps 10%

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:34 AM
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First, this is a terrible argument for why I should vote for Barack Obama. Wealth redistribution, higher taxes and increased regulation aren't what I think America needs to rebuild the economy.

Second, at least we're retaining the appearance of capitalism. Enterprise economic systems fluctuate. I'm ok with that.
I would have been OK with Hillary's plan which would have raised taxes for big earners back to 39% but Obama's "change" is going to bankrupt this country should he ever make it to the white house.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:33 AM
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Saying it because I don't understand how Americans have let this happen.

Yes, I'm in a GOP lobbying firm and I do support McCain, but I can fathom the idea of Hillary running the country. And while I don't like her or her politics, I don't think she'd be a global disaster for the US the same way I think Obama could be.

He's a FANTASTIC, top of the line speaker but the man's hardly ready to be Commander-in-Chief and President and his politics would destroy our economy in my opinion...

Oh well, let the battle begin I suppose.
Agreed, Hillary would have been a pretty good choice but we haven't had a president as liberal as Obama since.... I can't even think of one.
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:40 PM
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Saying it because I don't understand how Americans have let this happen.

Yes, I'm in a GOP lobbying firm and I do support McCain, but I can fathom the idea of Hillary running the country. And while I don't like her or her politics, I don't think she'd be a global disaster for the US the same way I think Obama could be.

He's a FANTASTIC, top of the line speaker but the man's hardly ready to be Commander-in-Chief and President and his politics would destroy our economy in my opinion...

Oh well, let the battle begin I suppose.

Wow. Couldn't do much worse than your ole buddy, Dubya. And if I were a GOP lobbyist (so glad I turned down that job), I would be depressed too.
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:59 PM
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Wow. Couldn't do much worse than your ole buddy, Dubya. And if I were a GOP lobbyist (so glad I turned down that job), I would be depressed too.
Which may be true, but just because Obama could be better than (insert name here) doesn't mean someone should vote for him.

Also, you shouldn't assume every Republican is completely happy with the job Dubya has done in office.
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