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[a.e.B.O.T.]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I see the distinction you are making, although I would disagree with the statement that if a child is "christened," and "stays in the eyes of God" he does not need baptism. He doesn't need baptism because he has already been baptized, and those traditions that practice baptism of infants also hold that baptism cannot be repeated.

However the point I was really trying to make is that christining means baptism, not dedication.

From dictionary.com:

chris·ten
–verb (used with object)
1. to receive into the Christian church by baptism; baptize.
2. to give a name to at baptism: They christened her Mary.
3. to name and dedicate: to christen a ship.
4. to make use of for the first time.

From the Catholic Encyclopedia article on baptism: "In English, the term christen is familiarly used for baptize. As, however, the former word signifies only the effect of baptism, that is, to make one a Christian, but not the manner and the act, moralists hold that 'I christen' could probably not be substituted validly for 'I baptize' in conferring the sacrament."

Back to the topic at hand.

Yes, and there are tons of nominations who have varied on when they use christening and baptism. Baptism can be repeated in some nominations when you are a "born again" and others mandate two. And others do something similar to a baptism when they are adults but they are not called a baptism. There are tons of denominations, and we are SOO getting off path.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by a.e.B.O.T.

. . . and we are SOO getting off path.

Which is why I said:

Originally Posted by MysticCat

This has became a major highjack/derailment. If anyone wants to PM about it, fine by me; as interesting as it may be to a few of us, though, I don't see it really adding anything to this particular discussion.

[a.e.B.O.T.]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Which is why I said:

Oh I know, but it was a fun derailment

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by a.e.B.O.T.

Oh I know, but it was a fun derailment

Lots of fun. Check your PMs.