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Old 05-20-2008, 11:01 PM
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Although there are Christian denominations who are not against gay marriage and there have been several laws that were once "current accepted concepts" but were challenged and changed because they were wrong. This is called progress and it resulted in voting rights for women and African Americans, the abolishment of slavery, the ability of women to own property, etc. In my view, it's time to revisit our "current accepted concept of marriage" and challenge it.
I see your point. But for me the issue of gay marriage has no equal magnitude in terms of changing society as did Women's Rights and Civil Rights. The extent to which women and minorities suffered is far greater than what gays experience. Gays have not been denied the right to vote, the right to dictate what happens to thier bodies, the right to choose where they live, work, play, socialize. Nor the right to receive an fair and equal education to that of White males.

My point with the hypothetical post was to illustrate that some of our current laws are based in a combination from legal, moral and religious issues.
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:31 PM
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Gays have not been denied...the right to dictate what happens to thier bodies, the right to choose where they live, work, play, socialize.
You're kidding, right?
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:46 PM
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You're kidding, right?
Nope. Go read an American History book from Civil War to Present. That should clear up this point for you.
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:56 PM
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Nope. Go read an American History book from Civil War to Present. That should clear up this point for you.
No, I can just go talk to people I know who have been fired and beaten up for being gay. Maybe should talk to them too.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:00 PM
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No, I can just go talk to people I know who have been fired and beaten up for being gay. Maybe should talk to them too.
I have. But there was not a systematic, government law stating that if you were anything but white and male you could not vote in this country, nor at one time own property.

While gays have suffered abuses and discrimination, it was done out of the ignorance of the person, and not due to some official government law.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:02 PM
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I have. But there was not a systematic, government law stating that if you were anything but white and male you could not vote in this country, nor at one time own property.

While gays have suffered abuses and discrimination, it was done out of the ignorance of the person, and not due to some official government law.

It is legal to fire someone for being gay, deny them housing for being gay. I think that's pretty serious stuff. I guess you don't. Sounds kind of...heartless.
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