Portrayal of George W. Bush in international advertisements

[kstar]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yes, he is. You don't get to pick and choose which President is your President.

Americans who feel this way are silly in their own right. But they can keep that silliness to themselves without celebrating when other countries take jabs at our leaders (and at America, in general).

No, he isn't. He didn't get elected. Just as there were British who were still loyal to the crown while it was in exile, I do not recognize the legitimacy of this administration.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by kstar

No, he isn't.

Yeah, he is.

And if you decide not to engage in this back-and-forth, please don't announce that you "agree to disagree."

[kstar]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yeah, he is.

And if you decide not to engage in this back-and-forth, please don't announce that you "agree to disagree."

No he isn't. I do NOT recognize his administration as legitimate. I almost wish someone would shoot him, but I don't want to make a martyr of him, as we've made of Saddam.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by kstar

No he isn't. I do NOT recognize his administration as legitimate. I almost wish someone would shoot him, but I don't want to make a martyr of him, as we've made of Saddam.

And for today's example of the radical and hateful left...

[kstar]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

And for today's example of the radical and hateful left...

How is that hateful? Because I want him out of office? Because I don't want a martyr that all of the Religious Right will rally around? Because I'm tired of my country being the laughingstock of the world, because of the stupidity of the general populace? Because I want the US to play nicely within the world neighborhood? Because I'm tired of my friends and relatives dying in an unjust war, waged because of a lie?

Also, because you're supposedly a college educated person, yet, you don't seem to see the big picture?

Also, I'm not really that far left. I'm socially moderate, and I'm very fiscally conservative, I just really do not see his power grab as legitimate and I do not see any worth in his life. He's an addict, he's a liar, and he's a murderer.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by kstar

How is that hateful? Because I want him out of office? Because I don't want a martyr that all of the Religious Right will rally around? Because I'm tired of my country being the laughingstock of the world, because of the stupidity of the general populace? Because I want the US to play nicely within the world neighborhood? Because I'm tired of my friends and relatives dying in an unjust war, waged because of a lie?

Also, because you're supposedly a college educated person, yet, you don't seem to see the big picture?

I don't see the big picture? You mean I don't see the big-socialist-we-should-let-other-countries-dictate-our-actions picture?

Also, the stupidity of the general populace cuts both way sport. Notice that about 60% of the country hates Bush? So they were stupid, but I guess they're over it now huh?

Do tell, how should we "play nicely" with other countries?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by kstar

How is that hateful?

Oh...I dunno...maybe wishing someone would assassinate the POTUS....

You can dislike a President and wish they were out of the office all you want. But your line of reasoning is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. Extremism has the potential to breed terrorism. Speaking of wishes, I wish the FBI and CIA could keep an eye on you in case your logic impaired brain leads you to turn into one of those American-born terrorist sympathizers who join the Taliban.

Originally Posted by kstar

Also, because you're supposedly a college educated person, yet, you don't seem to see the big picture?

This is ironic. Seriously.

[kstar]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Oh...I dunno...maybe wishing someone would assassinate the POTUS....

You can dislike a President and wish they were out of the office all you want. But your line of reasoning is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. Extremism has the potential to breed terrorism. Speaking of wishes, I wish the FBI and CIA could keep an eye on you in case your logic impaired brain leads you to turn into one of those American-born terrorist sympathizers who join the Taliban.

This is ironic. Seriously.

And I ALMOST wish, big difference.

There is nothing dangerous with thinking, and it isn't that extreme. However, I was heavily recruited by the FBI for a job before I decided to go to grad school. They obviously don't think that disagreeing with the current administration is that "dangerous."

Actually it is ironic that you are so wrapped up in yourself that you think that anyone who disagrees obviously sympathizes with the Taliban. Talk about logic impaired.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by kstar

Because I want the US to play nicely within the world neighborhood?

But the world neighborhood doesn't want to play nice back. Should we just let everyone attack our country until there is nothing left. America has come out as the powerhouse, but those countries don't make us a laughing stock when we bail them out of whatever crap they go and get themselves.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by kstar

No he isn't. I do NOT recognize his administration as legitimate. I almost wish someone would shoot him, but I don't want to make a martyr of him, as we've made of Saddam.

This is borderline terrorist.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

This is borderline terrorist.

Any sympathy I had for you (Kstar) being on a no-fly list just evaporated with the "shoot him" comment.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

This is borderline terrorist.

no it isn't

not even close

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

no it isn't

not even close

Sure, it is because I didn't say it is terrorist. When you "almost wish" harm on a leader, that has potential to go beyond being hateful if that rationale is placed in the wrong hands.

Perhaps you are thinking about the messenger and a narrower definition of terrorism whereas I'm thinking about the message and what such messages have the potential to invoke.

ETA: I wasn't completely serious about the Taliban reference. I was leaping to extremes and conclusions as I felt she was doing.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by kstar

No he isn't. I do NOT recognize his administration as legitimate. I almost wish someone would shoot him, but I don't want to make a martyr of him, as we've made of Saddam.

I'm not a Bush fan myself, but this is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by kstar

No he isn't. I do NOT recognize his administration as legitimate. I almost wish someone would shoot him, but I don't want to make a martyr of him, as we've made of Saddam.

Wow - I don't even know what to say to this. Pretty hateful stuff that you're spouting on this thread.

ETA: It's "hateful" because you implied you wanted someone to shoot him. Hoping that someone is shot is, a good majority of the time, "hateful."