Why do LGLO/MCGLOs follow NPHC practices?

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

When does this happen? The only time I've ever seen MCGLOs get upset about copycatting is when it's direct theft of organizational identity such as stealing pieces of a website, having letters that are intentionally similar (not going to call anyone out but this has happened recently with a multicultural sorority and there are issues with a Latina sorority that I'm aware of), using terminology that is specific to an org (for instance, another sorority in Florida started using the term "Emergence" to spite our chapters down there), or stealing concepts directly (like if a multicultural sorority other than Theta Nu Xi started calling their members "Theta Women").

It's like if someone signs onto Greek Chat with the screenname Blue1920 or DeltaDiva and is not a member of Zeta Phi Beta or Delta Sigma Theta, respectively. It raises eyebrows.

Things like stepping, strolling, saluting, etc., while they may be points of contention for some, are really nothing worth fighting over as has been mentioned many times on GC.

You know, I mentioned it because I see QNXi members on here upset all the time because another organization shares two letters (Phi Nu Xi, I believe?). By those standards, as an Alpha Sigma Tau, I should be VERY angry about Alpha Sigma Alpha! How dare they?? Copycats! In all seriousness, however, this is relative to my point - you can't ASSUME they're copying you. You don't KNOW that. And until you can say, with 100% certainty, that they are deliberately infringing on QNXi, then I find it a bit presumptuous to accuse them of it.

As far as using specific terminology, refer to my last post - the deliberate use of the word 'incorporated', using the term 'aspirants', etc are all directly from the NPHC...and I've seen them used by MCGLOs on this board repeatedly. I don't have anything against QNXi - don't get me wrong, I think MCGLOs can be great - but I do see a lot of hypocrisy sometimes.

If someone had the handle DeltaDiva, by the way, I would not be at all surprised to find they were a Tri Delt, which is part of my point. DST does not own the label 'Delta'. If someone in a local or national org used that as a reference, I would not immediately think they were copying DST...but some would, and that's not necessarily realistic.

Basically, my overall point here is that: a). You can never assume someone is copying you, and b). As members of GLOs, we are ALL going to have similarities in how we do things, even if it's as base as using Greek letters for our names. No one has really drawn the line over what's okay to use from existing Greeks, and what's not. I think WE all, as Greeks, have a good idea - but those founding local sororities may not have the same conception as some here that they are apparently not allowed to use calls or handsigns...at all.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

You know, I mentioned it because I see QNXi members on here upset all the time because another organization shares two letters (Phi Nu Xi, I believe?)...In all seriousness, however, this is relative to my point - you can't ASSUME they're copying you. You don't KNOW that. And until you can say, with 100% certainty, that they are deliberately infringing on QNXi, then I find it a bit presumptuous to accuse them of it.

Due to some legal issues that came up, I'm not really at liberty to discuss this situation. But, suffice it to say, I am 100% certain that they were deliberately infringing on Theta Nu Xi.

As far as using specific terminology, refer to my last post - the deliberate use of the word 'incorporated', using the term 'aspirants', etc are all directly from the NPHC...and I've seen them used by MCGLOs on this board repeatedly.

Again, what I was talking about was organizational. You're talking about "the NPHC." And, I don't want to delve too far into it, but ALL of our organizations are incorporated and NPHC organizations do not all officially use the term "aspirant." I realize these are simply examples you used, but you seem to be missing my point.

If someone had the handle DeltaDiva, by the way, I would not be at all surprised to find they were a Tri Delt, which is part of my point. DST does not own the label 'Delta'.

Given what you've posted thus far in this thread, I wouldn't expect you to understand why a non-DST DeltaDiva would raise eyebrows.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

You know, I mentioned it because I see QNXi members on here upset all the time because another organization shares two letters (Phi Nu Xi, I believe?). By those standards, as an Alpha Sigma Tau, I
should be VERY angry about Alpha Sigma Alpha! How dare they?? Copycats! In all seriousness, however, this is relative to my point - you can't ASSUME they're copying you. You don't KNOW that. And until you can say, with 100% certainty, that they are deliberately infringing on QNXi, then I find it a bit presumptuous to accuse them of it.

This statement proves that you absolutely do not know what you're talking about. We know with 100% certainty that these women were DELIBERATELY infringing on TNX. I find it a bit presumptuous that you would make this statement without ever asking the members of TNX on this board why their response was what it was.

Originally Posted by fantASTic

As far as using specific terminology, refer to my last post - the deliberate use of the word 'incorporated', using the term 'aspirants', etc are all directly from the NPHC...and I've seen them used by MCGLOs on this board repeatedly. I don't have anything against QNXi - don't get me wrong, I think MCGLOs can be great - but I do see a lot of hypocrisy sometimes.

Yet another instance of you not knowing what you're talking about. Not all NPHC orgs use the term. And because of how our process is, that is what they are, aspirants.

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Basically, my overall point here is that: a). You can never assume someone is copying you

I agree with you that you can't make the assumption. But when a former pledge/interest/interest group becomes the founder of a new GLO that "shares" all/parts of the pre-exisiting organization's surface characterisitics, then one doesn't need a good deal of critical thinking skills to see what is going on. Those familiar with the pre-exisiting orgs and their "identity" can pick up things a lot quicker than those that aren't.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

This statement proves that you absolutely do not know what you're talking about. We know with 100% certainty that these women were DELIBERATELY infringing on TNX. I find it a bit presumptuous that you would make this statement without ever asking the members of TNX on this board why their response was what it was.



Yet another instance of you not knowing what you're talking about. Not all NPHC orgs use the term. And because of how our process is, that is what they are, aspirants.



I agree with you that you can't make the assumption. But when a former pledge/interest/interest group becomes the founder of a new GLO that "shares" all/parts of the pre-exisiting organization's surface characterisitics, then one doesn't need a good deal of critical thinking skills to see what is going on. Those familiar with the pre-exisiting orgs and their "identity" can pick up things a lot quicker than those that aren't.

And, daggone, soror. I'mma get outta your way.

[BlueNYC2]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Soror don't even bother. Elephant Walk knows more than any of us could possibly know about Black culture around the world and our connection to eachother and to our heritage, because he has Black friends and has obviously done his research. He is here to enlighten us all and we should be greatful.

lol...