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05-13-2008, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer
What culture entails could fill a 50,000 page book. He pointed out the relevant parts. Try adding something to the discussion for once.
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Actually, no. What culture entails is a paragraph.
He didn't touch the relevant parts but rather expressed his opinion of something unrelated.
Don't be sensitive. Discuss American culture and get over me.
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05-13-2008, 04:39 PM
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You basically came in and said we're priviledged, we're white, therefore we're wrong. The end.
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I didn't say anything about you. I was talking about some of my former students, whose sense of entitlement was off the charts. Really, I was agreeing with you.
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05-13-2008, 04:40 PM
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Because in the sense that he used culture, he was referring to a value system. You really don't add anything to the argument. You join the thread every time one of the men from a southern chapter posts something, and then go about trying to provoke them into saying something that you can twist into racism to further the stereotype you already have of southern fraternities.
I would say it's the pot calling the kettle black, but then you'd probably tell me that it was racist to say that.
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05-13-2008, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Little32
Yeah and I sort of fell for it this time, but these guys are full of crap.
/end hijack. 
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You have a funny way of agreeing.
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05-13-2008, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel
Surprise, surprise. We got where I figured we were going all along. Ask what I think is wrong with today's society, I give you my honest answer (which wasn't intended to offend anyone, the problems are widespread across all races), and then you get offended and self-righteous.
Ladies and gentleman, I give you People's Exhibit A.
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And this is exactly why you're incapable of answering what I asked you all.
Me: Remind me of what American culture is.
What you all read: What's wrong with America?
You all have an axe to grind which makes it impossible to have a real discussion. No one is offended or self-righteous. You're just doing exactly what I expected from you all.
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05-13-2008, 04:41 PM
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Well, you are full of crap regardless of race, class, gender, or sexuality. :shrugging shoulders:
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05-13-2008, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
Actually, no. What culture entails is a paragraph.
He didn't touch the relevant parts but rather expressed his opinion of something unrelated.
Don't be sensitive. Discuss American culture and get over me. 
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It was perfectly relevant. He described how the current conditions in our culture are fostering moral decay.
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05-13-2008, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel
Because in the sense that he used culture, he was referring to a value system.
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It's cute that you all are speaking for each other. Okay, let's say he meant value system.
What's America's value system before all of these minority groups sent it to hell.  Hardworking, Christian, what else?
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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel
You really don't add anything to the argument. You join the thread every time one of the men from a southern chapter posts something, and then go about trying to provoke them into saying something that you can twist into racism to further the stereotype you already have of southern fraternities.
I would say it's the pot calling the kettle black, but then you'd probably tell me that it was racist to say that.
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Seriously? Get over it, dude. You're putting more into this than I am.
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05-13-2008, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
And this is exactly why you're incapable of answering what I asked you all.
Me: Remind me of what American culture is.
What you all read: What's wrong with America?
You all have an axe to grind which makes it impossible to have a real discussion. No one is offended or self-righteous. You're just doing exactly what I expected from you all. 
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Because no one was ever discussing what America's culture is. We were discussing the fact that America has a flawed value system.
Exactly like I said about you earlier, you wrongly define things and take them out of context for the sole purpose of getting someone to argue with you with the intent of trying to get them to say something that could, if misinterpreted, be offensive.
People's Exhibit B.
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05-13-2008, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer
It was perfectly relevant. He described how the current conditions in our culture are fostering moral decay.
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I didn't ask that. Slow down a little so you don't confuse yourself anymore.
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05-13-2008, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
And this is exactly why you're incapable of answering what I asked you all.
Me: Remind me of what American culture is.
What you all read: What's wrong with America?
You all have an axe to grind which makes it impossible to have a real discussion. No one is offended or self-righteous. You're just doing exactly what I expected from you all. 
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You know damn well what American culture is. Go read the wikipedia entry on American Culture if you don't. We gave you our opinions on which parts of it were relevant to this discussion. You're being an obtrusive ass to try to get a rise out of Crackerbarrel.
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05-13-2008, 04:48 PM
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I doubt it, actually sounds admirable to me. This country's culture is going into the tank.
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Back to basics.
I asked him to remind me of what America's culture is.
If this country's culture is going into the tank, that implies an understanding of what our culture was before the decay and what the culture should be.
So far, I've read about Christianity and hardwork. Is that all that went and goes into the creation and perpetuation of a solid American culture?
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05-13-2008, 04:48 PM
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I didn't ask that. Slow down a little so you don't confuse yourself anymore.
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I'm hardly confused, you're just asking irrelevant questions that you already know the answers to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_culture would be the literal answer to your question.
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05-13-2008, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
It's cute that you all are speaking for each other. Okay, let's say he meant value system.
What's America's value system before all of these minority groups sent it to hell.  Hardworking, Christian, what else?
Seriously? Get over it, dude. You're putting more into this than I am. 
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I'm not speaking for anyone, you're being a smarta$$ and trying to argue something that at no point was this discussion about. How do I know? Because I looked up what post provoked all this.
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Because everyone else is worried about being politically correct while the South, thank God, holds on the to values we believe and doesn't give a damn about what other people think of us.
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To which you responded: Sarcasm?
And then PledgeTrainer said: "No, this country's culture is going in the tank."
Chew on that one for a bit and get back to us when you've come up with a more convincing strawman.
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05-13-2008, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CountryClub
Obviously we aren't telling you what you want to hear so you can twist our words into something they aren't.
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Do you know what I want to hear? Don't assume that you do.
I'd rather someone who thinks they know that this country's culture is decaying to answer the question.
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