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Old 05-09-2008, 12:49 AM
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but you said you didn't want to read the books.
No I don't want to read them. Just because it's in a book or written by some famous author doesn't make it right.
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Old 05-09-2008, 08:25 AM
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No I don't want to read them. Just because it's in a book or written by some famous author doesn't make it right.
and just because you say it's wrong doesn't mean it's wrong, either. in fact, they're way more on the dot about the subject than you are. but you are more than allowed to wallow in your "cluelessness" i.e. ignorance.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:24 AM
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No I don't want to read them. Just because it's in a book or written by some famous author doesn't make it right.
Stealing a line from a bad movie I saw once..."Are you being deliberately dense?" I honestly think you have zero desire to become more educated about the issue and just want to ask a bunch of questions that you THINK you already know the answer to. I don't hate you, I really don't, so please don't think that. I just think you might not be the brightest crayon in the box.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:37 AM
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Stealing a line from a bad movie I saw once..."Are you being deliberately dense?" I honestly think you have zero desire to become more educated about the issue and just want to ask a bunch of questions that you THINK you already know the answer to. I don't hate you, I really don't, so please don't think that. I just think you might not be the brightest crayon in the box.
I don't think I'm being dense, and I don't ask questions I don't already have the right answer to. No one said anyone hated anyone. Maybe I'm not that knowledgeable on this subject, but I refuse to let outsiders determine who I decide to have a love life with. I honestly think when you see a black guy with a white woman in a relationship, you don't give him the benefit of the doubt unless you know him on a personal level. I think at the first look of seeing an interracial couple that you don't know (a black man and a white woman) you automatically start having negative thoughts in your mind. Like "Why is he with her?" or "He's one of those guys who thinks white women are better." You seem to link the two together as a bad thing and because associated concepts are essentially linked together in a person's mind, a person would be faster to respond to a related pair of concepts and in your case a black man and a white woman. Personally, I think this is a form of self interest, and self interest often shores up implicit biases. It's basically to bolster our own status. We are predisposed to ascribe superior characteristics to the groups to which we belong, or in groups, and to exaggerate differences between our own groups and outsiders. I think your basic visual perceptions on interracial relationships are totally skewed.

ETA: You also seem to hold strong emotions with interracial relationships (black and white) and some implicit biases appear to be rooted in strong emotions. Deep within our subconscious, all of us harbor biases, but the problem arises when we act on them. This is also something we can overcome since this is all based on brain activity.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:12 AM
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I don't think I'm being dense, and I don't ask questions I don't already have the right answer to. No one said anyone hated anyone. Maybe I'm not that knowledgeable on this subject, but I refuse to let outsiders determine who I decide to have a love life with. I honestly think when you see a black guy with a white woman in a relationship, you don't give him the benefit of the doubt unless you know him on a personal level. I think at the first look of seeing an interracial couple that you don't know (a black man and a white woman) you automatically start having negative thoughts in your mind. Like "Why is he with her?" or "He's one of those guys who thinks white women are better." You seem to link the two together as a bad thing and because associated concepts are essentially linked together in a person's mind, a person would be faster to respond to a related pair of concepts and in your case a black man and a white woman. Personally, I think this is a form of self interest, and self interest often shores up implicit biases. It's basically to bolster our own status. We are predisposed to ascribe superior characteristics to the groups to which we belong, or in groups, and to exaggerate differences between our own groups and outsiders. I think your basic visual perceptions on interracial relationships are totally skewed.

ETA: You also seem to hold strong emotions with interracial relationships (black and white) and some implicit biases appear to be rooted in strong emotions. Deep within our subconscious, all of us harbor biases, but the problem arises when we act on them. This is also something we can overcome since this is all based on brain activity.

Wow, you read me like a book. Let me guess, you studied Psychology in undergrad? Once again you are showing that you seem to THINK you know something that you don't. I have already stated where I stand on the issue and I think I have shown that my true beliefs/feelings are contrary to what you have written in the above. From this point on I will not participate in any further conversation with you on this particular topic.
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