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04-14-2008, 06:11 PM
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Okay, court cases aside, and let's say for the sake of argument that Gamma Phi's HQ disciplined them, I think the punishment does not fit the crime.
Why not put the chapter through some sort of PC sensitivity training? Bring in some native Americans to speak to the group, etc. That seems much more in line with educating young people who made an error in judgement.
Their "crime" was not an out of control, alcoholic binge where people were arrested, injured. This form of punishment is just reinforcing the "we must punish these non PC fools swiftly and forcefully" mindset.
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04-14-2008, 06:13 PM
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Their "crime" was not an out of control, alcoholic binge where people were arrested, injured. This form of punishment is just reinforcing the "we must punish these non PC fools swiftly and forcefully" mindset.
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Which is absolutely disgusting.
It would continue my argument against nationals and their thought-police.
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04-14-2008, 06:28 PM
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Which is absolutely disgusting.
It would continue my argument against nationals and their thought-police.
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Agreed. National organizations should support their local chapters. The national organization here not supporting the chapter in an action telling the university to go eff itself is unfortunate.
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04-14-2008, 06:36 PM
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Agreed. National organizations should support their local chapters. The national organization here not supporting the chapter in an action telling the university to go eff itself is unfortunate.
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Wait, when did this become a "lefties" thing?
And Nationals should support the chapters if they agree with what the chapter did. If they disagree then they should punish them appropriately. HQ has every right to "sanction free speech."
It does sound like the University has a policy of events not having "improper" themes or some such. Whether or not "Cowboys and Indians" is an inappropriate theme or not will require the Judicial Board Review should the PHC choose to do so. (Based on the article).
Kevin, I feel you're exaggerating the legality of this by suggesting that it is blatently illegal when there is no binding precedent. It is in your opinion a violation of their Constitutional rights, this we get. In the real world, however, it is not legally a violation of their rights and the grey area will not be cleared up unless someone does take the University to court.
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04-14-2008, 06:57 PM
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As far as I know, the University has not given the chapter any sanctions other than the social probation, which it is unclear is from HQ or the school. Gamma Phi Beta has stated in their press release that they will be working with the school to insure that the chapter upholds the values of Gamma Phi. I'm just guessing, but I would be surprised if that did not include some form of programming, perhaps via our PACE program.
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04-14-2008, 10:35 PM
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PC sensitivity training
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Wording it this way undermines the seriousness and significance of it.
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04-14-2008, 10:41 PM
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Wording it this way undermines the seriousness and significance of it.
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