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03-22-2008, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTRen13
You've never had relatives (blood relatives), or really even old friends, that you didn't really want in your residence before? You're lucky. I don't know why SD doesn't want these particular guys visiting, but there are plenty of valid reasons for concern that I can think of off the top of my head ...
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Okay, point taken.
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
Are random people suppose to be our "brothers" when we had never met them before and went through a vastly different fraternity experience as our own? Are we realy brothers? Are we really expected to treat them as such?
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Yes, they are supposed to be your brothers if they're members of the same fraternity. I guess this is just very surprising because I've never heard of this kind of attitude in the NPC. If you don't want to associate with what you call "random" people then why did any of you guys join national/international organizations?
All SD said was that they are "VERY different" which could mean just about anything. If he had said that this other chapter is full of jerks who are just going to trash the house then it's a completely different discussion.
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03-22-2008, 02:08 PM
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give them the benefit of the doubt. who knows, you guys may end up liking each other. My chapter is really close with our surrounding chapters and while we are very different, it is always a blast to see them. they treat us like brothers from the same chapter and we do the same for them.
if you have them over and it doesnt work out, at least you know for next time.
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03-22-2008, 02:30 PM
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I've never had an issue with any chapter I've visted (and I've been to chapters all over the country). However, my brothers and I always treated the chapter with respect and never took advantage of their hospitality.
We've had other chapters visit our house and most were great. There were a few that acted like fools. They never got an invite back.
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03-24-2008, 06:13 PM
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give them the benefit of the doubt. who knows, you guys may end up liking each other.
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This i've got to agree with. We have a similar situation (SECDomination... if you're a UF student then wow. The similarities are probably endless, or of course, I might just know you) where the attitudes are so different that it is awkward having them over. All the same, there's more than enough good in everyone not to have any trouble finding that for a weekend. Besides, I would at least expect the courtesy of being able to visit other chapters almost impromptu, so why wouldn't I extend that courtesy myself. housing... maybe some advance notice of about a week or two, but it looks like they did that.
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03-22-2008, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne
Okay, point taken.
Yes, they are supposed to be your brothers if they're members of the same fraternity. I guess this is just very surprising because I've never heard of this kind of attitude in the NPC. If you don't want to associate with what you call "random" people then why did any of you guys join national/international organizations?
All SD said was that they are "VERY different" which could mean just about anything. If he had said that this other chapter is full of jerks who are just going to trash the house then it's a completely different discussion.
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My allegiance is to my chapter......you know, the 100+ guys that I have spent every day with for the past 4.5 years. Members of my chapter were chosen for specific reasons. We share the same interests. We generally like the same things. Just because I joined a national organization does not mean that I have to hold some random SAE from South Dakota in the same esteem I do my very best friends. Yes, he is my "brother" in recognition, nothing more, nothing less. I will respect him just as I would anyone in everyday life...........that does not mean that I have to invite him into my fraternity house and treat him as a full blown member of my chapter just because we know the same rituals and can give each other a cool handshake.
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03-22-2008, 02:41 PM
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I see both Leslie Anne and SEC Domination's points...they are understandable but, I have to admit-I'm confused..just a little....
This isn't the first time I have heard this from a fraternity member. In fact, at Penn State there was a group of Pi Kappa Alphas from Ohio State (I think it was) that came to party with the Pikes at PSU. Well, a fight started between the fraternity men (of the same GLO) but, not the same chapter. It was even on YouTube for a while.
I then began to question one of my friends who is a member of a national fraternity why men would do this. I stated that during the Orange Bowl when Penn State and Florida State played each other-had I gotten tickets to the game I would have hoped the FSU sisters would have accepted me-and I can say that I'm pretty certain they would (and vice versa)....
My friend began to talk about how even though he is a member of XYZ at Penn State-he does not have the same allegiance to the member of XYZ at Florida State, Ohio State, etc. I was a bit confused because as AST said earlier-I think it's great to meet sisters from all over-even rival schools....
So, although I understand like DST was saying about blood relatives coming to your home you don't want over (because I have a cousin my boyfriend and I won't tell her where we live for that reason alone) I am confused as to why these men took the same pledge/ oath as you and yet they don't constitue as "brothers"...I'm not complaining or trying to make anyone look bad-I'm just asking....why does it seem different for members of the NPC than it does all the fraternity men?
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