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Old 03-21-2008, 10:32 AM
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Obama is a fool, playing to the black racists he associates with, his "spiritual advisors" Wright and Farrakhan. My grandmother said, "The Devil comes dressed as a gentleman." I don't trust this guy; personally, I think he's evil. He is a member of a "church" that preaches hate and racism and is the pawn of several black supremacists. His self-absorbed wife maybe now has a second " to finally be proud of her country". In Iowa, he said, "When America gets a cold, Black America gets pneumonia". He's like Oprah, they have a no interest beyond their own race. They all betray their self-serving agenda of bigotry.
Farrakhan offered his endorsement and Obama turned it down immediately. At that time, everyone that was uneducated on his background or willing to believe was accusing him of being Muslim (as if that were something negative). So obviously he's not Obama's spiritual advisor. Obama's a CHRISTIAN.

As far as Obama's "Black Agenda" let me tell you that I personally haven't noticed any. He's too busy catering to the needs of those whom he needs to get elected (and they don't look like me). Apparently the majority of black people are voting for him, but I have yet to hear him say anything relevant or concrete pledging to address serious issues affecting the black community or women. I honestly am not holding my breath to hear anything from him regarding that. I guess on one hand I understand, but on the other that bothers me to no end because it's possibly just a waste of their interest.

(People just love making things up! Next week, they'll just be saying that he's Muslim again...)
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:37 AM
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Farrakhan offered his endorsement and Obama turned it down immediately. At that time, everyone that was uneducated on his background or willing to believe was accusing him of being Muslim (as if that were something negative). So obviously he's not Obama's spiritual advisor. Obama's a CHRISTIAN.

As far as Obama's "Black Agenda" let me tell you that I personally haven't noticed any. He's too busy catering to the needs of those whom he needs to get elected (and they don't look like me). Apparently the majority of black people are voting for him, but I have yet to hear him say anything relevant or concrete pledging to address serious issues affecting the black community or women. I honestly am not holding my breath to hear anything from him regarding that. I guess on one hand I understand, but on the other that bothers me to no end because it's possibly just a waste of their interest.

(People just love making things up! Next week, they'll just be saying that he's Muslim again...)
I'm trying to figure out how a black guy with the name Barack Hussein Obama (omg I said it) is the best choice for a "terrorist sleeper agent." Wouldn't you pick some guy named John Smith or something? And he can't be the anti-Christ, he came from the West (Hawaii) not the East.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:40 AM
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I'm trying to figure out how a black guy with the name Barack Hussein Obama (omg I said it) is the best choice for a "terrorist sleeper agent." Wouldn't you pick some guy named John Smith or something? And he can't be the anti-Christ, he came from the West (Hawaii) not the East.
I have to go back and watch season 4 and 5 of 24...there is a conspiracy in there somewhere that addresses this....heh
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:54 PM
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Y'all know that this little girl is probably Black and it is interesting how the young people who have yet understand YabYum position and truly enjoy the greater and important things in life and so eagerly get indoctrinated and control by folks who will never have the Dharma required to love one another...
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:47 PM
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Newest report is that the passport files of all 3 major candidates have been breached.
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:57 PM
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Newest report is that the passport files of all 3 major candidates have been breached.
Indeed.

Obama's shot at the administration was beyond toolish.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:01 PM
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but I have yet to hear him say anything relevant or concrete pledging to address serious issues affecting the black community or women. I honestly am not holding my breath to hear anything from him regarding that. I guess on one hand I understand, but on the other that bothers me to no end because it's possibly just a waste of their interest.
I think its a mistake to think that because he hasn't spent the majority of his time talking about race to assume that he doesn't think it is a major issue. If he did focus too much of his candidacy on race, he'd have ended up as no more a viable candidate than Jesse Jackson. I assume based on smaller more nuanced comments (as well as the recent speech on race) that he is highly attuned to the issues, but it just isn't practical for him to get too detailed about his plans because it is such a volatile issue that it would make him unelectable.
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:36 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't think this is at all a big deal? The race stuff, the pastor's comments, etc?
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:55 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't think this is at all a big deal? The race stuff, the pastor's comments, etc?
peppy...what do you think about Bill Richardson's endorsement ?
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:58 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't think this is at all a big deal? The race stuff, the pastor's comments, etc?
I don't think it should be a primary focal point, but I do think it goes towards questionable judgment. Also, while I think the speech had some strong points, I think it was politically motivated and therefore shouldn't be celebrated either (some of the ideas and dialogue should be, perhaps).
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Old 03-21-2008, 08:50 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't think this is at all a big deal? The race stuff, the pastor's comments, etc?
In reality it is not a big deal. I also agree with Shinerbock that it affects Obama's better judgment. Why the media would make a big deal out of this lunacy is very interest.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:55 PM
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In reality it is not a big deal. I also agree with Shinerbock that it affects Obama's better judgment. Why the media would make a big deal out of this lunacy is very interest.
For some reason, a batshit crazy racist preacher, whose faithful includes a Presedential candidate for 20 years, yelling "God Damn America" from the pulpit among other things seems like it would be a pretty big deal in terms of media attention.
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Old 03-21-2008, 11:02 PM
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For some reason, a batshit crazy racist preacher, whose faithful includes a Presedential candidate for 20 years, yelling "God Damn America" from the pulpit among other things seems like it would be a pretty big deal in terms of media attention.
But mac sweetie,

There have been others batchit crazy racist preachers who have actually been presidential candidates that yell all kinds of craziness from the bully pulpit that don't get nearly as much media attention...

Besides, my question was how come the media NEEDED to amplify this kind of thing--other than being politically motivated?

Was what Rev RUN DMC Wright all that life altering for say, someone such as yourself? It is not going to change who you are going to vote for, really?
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Old 03-22-2008, 01:46 PM
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But mac sweetie,

There have been others batchit crazy racist preachers who have actually been presidential candidates that yell all kinds of craziness from the bully pulpit that don't get nearly as much media attention...

Besides, my question was how come the media NEEDED to amplify this kind of thing--other than being politically motivated?

Was what Rev RUN DMC Wright all that life altering for say, someone such as yourself? It is not going to change who you are going to vote for, really?
Yeah I agree with you. No, what he said was certainly not life altering, at least to me. I will say though, as a white Presbyterian I certainly am not used to that kind of a church environment, so the shock and awe factor was definitely there haha. It's not going to change who I am going to vote for either.

As far as media attention, other than for political reasons, I honestly think the media was right for giving this some attention. I think people deserve to know that a potential President of our country has involved himself for two decades with a guy who obviously has some very questionable beliefs and some very questionable ways in which he goes about expressing those belief, regardless of the good that he as done. That goes for anyone in this type of situation, not just Obama. You have to admit, for some this was extremely disturbing and I have a feeling that it would anger a good deal of people if this came out after the elections were said and done with.
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:59 AM
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Am I the only one who doesn't think this is at all a big deal? The race stuff, the pastor's comments, etc?
No.
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